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Sharks @ Leafs - Nov. 28th, 7:30pm - SN, TSN 1050

Joe S. said:
So hainsey is the new lumme I take it based in the running commentary I?ve been seeing here?

I'm usually a Leaf apologetic, but his play is significantly worse than last year. He's made a few random good offensive plays, but other than that he's not been good.
 
Frycer14 said:
cabber24 said:
He should get fined... it's a threat.

No, it isn't. He's describing thornton. Unclench those cheeks. 

Although, I think more respect would be gleaned from bringing up his productivity over his career, not so much by the fact he has two bad knees and is nearing 40. But whatever. Deboer is just trying to get some emotion up on his team.
Hahaha, I read it as that Kadri would have reconstructed knees. I guess I missed the part where Kadri disrespected Thorton to put it all together. They fought... not sure where the disrespect was?
 
Zee said:
Hainsey was trying his best there to knock it into his own net but Andersen grabbed it first
Yeah, he was totally swatting that puck into the empty net if Andersen didn't get it first.
 
Remember that epic shift Hainsey had against the Predators in the Stanley Cup Final back in 2017?

He generally aims to do the right thing, but cannot physically do it that well anymore and it's unfortunately more and more apparent as the games wear on. Playing on the wrong side makes it even harder; decisions have to be planned out a bit more in advance, positioning and footwork to get there takes just an extra bit of processing.

His purpose is to be an extension of the coaching staff on the ice and on the bench; you don't play as long in this league as he has without doing a lot of the right things consistently. As a player, he is a placeholder for whoever demonstrates they can move up the lineup. As evidenced by their approaches with other Marlie grads these past couple of seasons, the coaching staff does not like their young players getting unsheltered exposure until they've built up a larger foundation of confidence in their performance. Like Martin and Komarov before, someone will be taking Hainsey's spot.
 
These games make me curse Matthews ever getting injured at all.  I think he'd lead the league in goals easily.

I still like Marner and Tavares too I guess.  :P
 
herman said:
Remember that epic shift Hainsey had against the Predators in the Stanley Cup Final back in 2017?

He generally aims to do the right thing, but cannot physically do it that well anymore and it's unfortunately more and more apparent as the games wear on. Playing on the wrong side makes it even harder; decisions have to be planned out a bit more in advance, positioning and footwork to get there takes just an extra bit of processing.

His purpose is to be an extension of the coaching staff on the ice and on the bench; you don't play as long in this league as he has without doing a lot of the right things consistently. As a player, he is a placeholder for whoever demonstrates they can move up the lineup. As evidenced by their approaches with other Marlie grads these past couple of seasons, the coaching staff does not like their young players getting unsheltered exposure until they've built up a larger foundation of confidence in their performance. Like Martin and Komarov before, someone will be taking Hainsey's spot.
Hate to harp on this but Hainsey has to go and fast, he is a complete liability out there, yes he may make one or two good offensive moves a game but his defence is like......what defense?
 
I have liked what I have seen in Lindholm up to the last 4 or 5 games. Once Willie comes back I am not sure I would not put the Goat between Ennis and Brown and let Lindholm sit.  As Babs says the Goat will always be 6'5" and has the wingspan, he was also becoming an assist machine (LOL) in the last 3 games.
 
herman said:
Remember that epic shift Hainsey had against the Predators in the Stanley Cup Final back in 2017?

He generally aims to do the right thing, but cannot physically do it that well anymore and it's unfortunately more and more apparent as the games wear on. Playing on the wrong side makes it even harder; decisions have to be planned out a bit more in advance, positioning and footwork to get there takes just an extra bit of processing.

His purpose is to be an extension of the coaching staff on the ice and on the bench; you don't play as long in this league as he has without doing a lot of the right things consistently. As a player, he is a placeholder for whoever demonstrates they can move up the lineup. As evidenced by their approaches with other Marlie grads these past couple of seasons, the coaching staff does not like their young players getting unsheltered exposure until they've built up a larger foundation of confidence in their performance. Like Martin and Komarov before, someone will be taking Hainsey's spot.

With the way Oz has improved since the start of the season I really want to see him start eating into some of Hainsey's PK minutes.  I do wonder if some of the struggles from Hainsey settle down when he isn't still trying to handle 1:30 minute PK shifts.
 
Highlander said:
herman said:
Remember that epic shift Hainsey had against the Predators in the Stanley Cup Final back in 2017?

He generally aims to do the right thing, but cannot physically do it that well anymore and it's unfortunately more and more apparent as the games wear on. Playing on the wrong side makes it even harder; decisions have to be planned out a bit more in advance, positioning and footwork to get there takes just an extra bit of processing.

His purpose is to be an extension of the coaching staff on the ice and on the bench; you don't play as long in this league as he has without doing a lot of the right things consistently. As a player, he is a placeholder for whoever demonstrates they can move up the lineup. As evidenced by their approaches with other Marlie grads these past couple of seasons, the coaching staff does not like their young players getting unsheltered exposure until they've built up a larger foundation of confidence in their performance. Like Martin and Komarov before, someone will be taking Hainsey's spot.
Hate to harp on this but Hainsey has to go and fast, he is a complete liability out there, yes he may make one or two good offensive moves a game but his defence is like......what defense?

I'd like to see Gainsay on the bottom pairing before I outright dismiss him.
 
L K said:
herman said:
Remember that epic shift Hainsey had against the Predators in the Stanley Cup Final back in 2017?

He generally aims to do the right thing, but cannot physically do it that well anymore and it's unfortunately more and more apparent as the games wear on. Playing on the wrong side makes it even harder; decisions have to be planned out a bit more in advance, positioning and footwork to get there takes just an extra bit of processing.

His purpose is to be an extension of the coaching staff on the ice and on the bench; you don't play as long in this league as he has without doing a lot of the right things consistently. As a player, he is a placeholder for whoever demonstrates they can move up the lineup. As evidenced by their approaches with other Marlie grads these past couple of seasons, the coaching staff does not like their young players getting unsheltered exposure until they've built up a larger foundation of confidence in their performance. Like Martin and Komarov before, someone will be taking Hainsey's spot.

With the way Oz has improved since the start of the season I really want to see him start eating into some of Hainsey's PK minutes.  I do wonder if some of the struggles from Hainsey settle down when he isn't still trying to handle 1:30 minute PK shifts.

Babcock has already penciled him in for PK duty; the timing of that is a bit of a race of convergence between a) Ozhiganov's apparent readiness and confidence; b) Hainsey's play's deterioration becoming untenable. Judging by what the coaching staff as done in the past, they'll eat some minuses from veterans if sheltering the incoming prospect is still necessary. They've already started weaning off Hainsey for Dermott on PK. They already have Marincin languishing in the pressbox who could basically be a better Hainsey right now, but I suspect they're hoping Hainsey warms up (veteran legs).

I've seen some improvements in Hainsey's puck handling in non-emergency situations the past few games. I can't remember if it was last night or the game before when he was fed a low-high pass after Rielly cycled behind the net; I was sure he'd just fire a low slapper Polak-style but he lightly faked a shot and slipped a cross-seam pass down to Rielly at the right half-wall to continue pressing the attack.
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1068216131075403777

Haha this is great

Matthews : "sorry kid, I tipped that shot, goal is mine"
Johnsson : "but I'm older than you why you calling me kid?"
Matthews: "shut up kid"
 

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