Steve Stamkos?

[Al14]

can cause clotting with trauma or repetitive motion, such as raising your arms above your head.

Too many goal celebrations?

It will be really interesting to see his goal celebration after he recovers. 

Raising your arms after scoring is such a habit! 

 

[herman]

In case you hadn't heard yet: Brian Lawton (ex-GM of TBL) joined Naylor and Landsberg and chatted about Stamkos/Toronto http://www.tsn.ca/radio/toronto-1050/lawton-stamkos-sees-himself-on-the-biggest-stage-1.471644

https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2016/04/14/brian-lawton-steven-stamkos-toronto/

Lawton was asked if he thinks Stamkos will choose the Leafs if all offers on the open market are roughly equal:

I do. I really do. I think Steven is really close with this family. He loves Toronto. He loves Tampa, don?t get me wrong; he?s enjoyed it down there, he?s had wonderful experiences down there. But, in my opinion, I could see him wanting to play very badly in Toronto. I say that because I think Steven is a guy that wants big moments for himself to be involved in. He?s not a selfish guy; he?s very humble, but I still think that he sees himself on the biggest stage in the National Hockey League. And that would be Toronto. I don?t think it?s discomforting for him. Further to that, I think his family is there. The people he trains with are there. I think his agents are there. I think there is a lot of outside influence around him, that in their own view would like to see Steven in Toronto, too.

Next, on whether there are backchannels letting GMs know in advance about where a soon-to-be UFA player is leaning:

Absolutely. Believe it or not, obviously players, GMs and agents are bound to rules with regard to tampering, but all of those ancillary sources ? not withstanding agents ? are not. It?s possible that there are friends of Stamkos that are talking to him, suggesting to him he should be in Toronto and those same friends are friends with people who work for other teams in the National Hockey League. Those things do go on. That?s just the facts of life. They?re not bounds in any rules in regard to that. There?s really nothing [you can do]. The National Hockey League oversees all of this ? they watch it very closely.

Lawton then spoke to the possibility that tampering is or could become a factor:

Of all the people in the NHL, the one guy that will never break the rules on something like this is Lou Lamoriello. For him, more than anything, having had it happen to him way back when[*]? I just don?t see it. I?ve talked to Lou about what happened between the Blues and New Jersey Devils, pending fines and how that whole thing eventually came about. Lou?s integrity is off the charts and there?s just no way he would ever even remotely go down that path. There might be some other people in the NHL that do it, but Lamoriello will not be one of them.

* http://www.nytimes.com/1999/01/05/sports/hockey-devils-get-1.4-million-and-draft-pick-in-tampering-case.html

 

[cabber24]

In case you hadn't heard yet: Brian Lawton (ex-GM of TBL) joined Naylor and Landsberg and chatted about Stamkos/Toronto http://www.tsn.ca/radio/toronto-1050/lawton-stamkos-sees-himself-on-the-biggest-stage-1.471644

https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2016/04/14/brian-lawton-steven-stamkos-toronto/

Lawton was asked if he thinks Stamkos will choose the Leafs if all offers on the open market are roughly equal:

I do. I really do. I think Steven is really close with this family. He loves Toronto. He loves Tampa, don?t get me wrong; he?s enjoyed it down there, he?s had wonderful experiences down there. But, in my opinion, I could see him wanting to play very badly in Toronto. I say that because I think Steven is a guy that wants big moments for himself to be involved in. He?s not a selfish guy; he?s very humble, but I still think that he sees himself on the biggest stage in the National Hockey League. And that would be Toronto. I don?t think it?s discomforting for him. Further to that, I think his family is there. The people he trains with are there. I think his agents are there. I think there is a lot of outside influence around him, that in their own view would like to see Steven in Toronto, too.

Next, on whether there are backchannels letting GMs know in advance about where a soon-to-be UFA player is leaning:

Absolutely. Believe it or not, obviously players, GMs and agents are bound to rules with regard to tampering, but all of those ancillary sources ? not withstanding agents ? are not. It?s possible that there are friends of Stamkos that are talking to him, suggesting to him he should be in Toronto and those same friends are friends with people who work for other teams in the National Hockey League. Those things do go on. That?s just the facts of life. They?re not bounds in any rules in regard to that. There?s really nothing [you can do]. The National Hockey League oversees all of this ? they watch it very closely.

Lawton then spoke to the possibility that tampering is or could become a factor:

Of all the people in the NHL, the one guy that will never break the rules on something like this is Lou Lamoriello. For him, more than anything, having had it happen to him way back when[*]? I just don?t see it. I?ve talked to Lou about what happened between the Blues and New Jersey Devils, pending fines and how that whole thing eventually came about. Lou?s integrity is off the charts and there?s just no way he would ever even remotely go down that path. There might be some other people in the NHL that do it, but Lamoriello will not be one of them.

* http://www.nytimes.com/1999/01/05/sports/hockey-devils-get-1.4-million-and-draft-pick-in-tampering-case.html

The agent who negotiated the contract prior to being allowed to died two months later...

 

[dappleganger]

In case you hadn't heard yet: Brian Lawton (ex-GM of TBL) joined Naylor and Landsberg and chatted about Stamkos/Toronto http://www.tsn.ca/radio/toronto-1050/lawton-stamkos-sees-himself-on-the-biggest-stage-1.471644

https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2016/04/14/brian-lawton-steven-stamkos-toronto/

Lawton was asked if he thinks Stamkos will choose the Leafs if all offers on the open market are roughly equal:

I do. I really do. I think Steven is really close with this family. He loves Toronto. He loves Tampa, don?t get me wrong; he?s enjoyed it down there, he?s had wonderful experiences down there. But, in my opinion, I could see him wanting to play very badly in Toronto. I say that because I think Steven is a guy that wants big moments for himself to be involved in. He?s not a selfish guy; he?s very humble, but I still think that he sees himself on the biggest stage in the National Hockey League. And that would be Toronto. I don?t think it?s discomforting for him. Further to that, I think his family is there. The people he trains with are there. I think his agents are there. I think there is a lot of outside influence around him, that in their own view would like to see Steven in Toronto, too.

Next, on whether there are backchannels letting GMs know in advance about where a soon-to-be UFA player is leaning:

Absolutely. Believe it or not, obviously players, GMs and agents are bound to rules with regard to tampering, but all of those ancillary sources ? not withstanding agents ? are not. It?s possible that there are friends of Stamkos that are talking to him, suggesting to him he should be in Toronto and those same friends are friends with people who work for other teams in the National Hockey League. Those things do go on. That?s just the facts of life. They?re not bounds in any rules in regard to that. There?s really nothing [you can do]. The National Hockey League oversees all of this ? they watch it very closely.

Lawton then spoke to the possibility that tampering is or could become a factor:

Of all the people in the NHL, the one guy that will never break the rules on something like this is Lou Lamoriello. For him, more than anything, having had it happen to him way back when[*]? I just don?t see it. I?ve talked to Lou about what happened between the Blues and New Jersey Devils, pending fines and how that whole thing eventually came about. Lou?s integrity is off the charts and there?s just no way he would ever even remotely go down that path. There might be some other people in the NHL that do it, but Lamoriello will not be one of them.

* http://www.nytimes.com/1999/01/05/sports/hockey-devils-get-1.4-million-and-draft-pick-in-tampering-case.html

The agent who negotiated the contract prior to being allowed to died two months later...

Sounds like Lou.

 

[herman]

To Stamkos or not to Stamkos.

 

[L K]

To Stamkos or not to Stamkos.

Not.  We don't need him now.  You have Kadri locked up long term, Nylander and Matthews as your centers.  You don't need him at this point and there is no point in paying 10 million dollars for Stamkos.  I mean if he signs for like 7 million maybe you bite but I just don't see that happening.

 

[Boston Leaf]

To Stamkos or not to Stamkos.

Not.  We don't need him now.  You have Kadri locked up long term, Nylander and Matthews as your centers.  You don't need him at this point and there is no point in paying 10 million dollars for Stamkos.  I mean if he signs for like 7 million maybe you bite but I just don't see that happening.

I agree

 

[Kin]

Hard pass. I love the guy but between the health stuff and the money he'll want and the fact that Center really isn't the team's area of need...yeah. Unless he's like "Man, I really want to take one-timers from Auston MAtthews for the next 5 years at 7 million per" I think the Leafs can chill on that one. 

 

[herman]

To Stamkos or not to Stamkos.

Not.  We don't need him now.  You have Kadri locked up long term, Nylander and Matthews as your centers.  You don't need him at this point and there is no point in paying 10 million dollars for Stamkos.  I mean if he signs for like 7 million maybe you bite but I just don't see that happening.

More or less what I'm thinking. if Stamkos really really wants to play for the Leafs at that price, I wouldn't say no though.

 

[McGarnagle]

Definitely pass. Tavares/mcdavid offer sheet in a few years.

 

[bustaheims]

Hard pass. I love the guy but between the health stuff and the money he'll want and the fact that Center really isn't the team's area of need...yeah. Unless he's like "Man, I really want to take one-timers from Auston MAtthews for the next 5 years at 7 million per" I think the Leafs can chill on that one.

Basically the same thoughts I have. I was on the fence about Stamkos before the lottery. Now, it's a pretty easy no for me. I expect the team to still kick the tires on him and such, but, unless he's really desperate to be a Leaf, he'll be playing for someone else next season.

 

[ZBBM]

I disagree. If he's available they'll sign him. UFAs his caliber come along about as often as an Auston Matthews.

 

[Bender]

Hard pass. I love the guy but between the health stuff and the money he'll want and the fact that Center really isn't the team's area of need...yeah. Unless he's like "Man, I really want to take one-timers from Auston MAtthews for the next 5 years at 7 million per" I think the Leafs can chill on that one.

Basically the same thoughts I have. I was on the fence about Stamkos before the lottery. Now, it's a pretty easy no for me. I expect the team to still kick the tires on him and such, but, unless he's really desperate to be a Leaf, he'll be playing for someone else next season.

Is this solely based on not needing a centre anymore?

 

[L K]

Hard pass. I love the guy but between the health stuff and the money he'll want and the fact that Center really isn't the team's area of need...yeah. Unless he's like "Man, I really want to take one-timers from Auston MAtthews for the next 5 years at 7 million per" I think the Leafs can chill on that one.

Basically the same thoughts I have. I was on the fence about Stamkos before the lottery. Now, it's a pretty easy no for me. I expect the team to still kick the tires on him and such, but, unless he's really desperate to be a Leaf, he'll be playing for someone else next season.

Is this solely based on not needing a centre anymore?

Not needing a center anymore , probably.  Not needing an 8-9M center when our top 3 centers are at most going to cost 11.5M for the next two years.

 

[Highlander]

How much has Steve already earned? If he took 7M on a 10 year contract=$70,000,000.00  not bad chump change to add to his aready stuffed bank account. I think I could live on this (plus the Canadian endorsment market, another 1-2M a year).
I wasn't born in a barn and lets face it we are all greedy piggys, but he may just give something of a home discount to make it happen.

 

[Deebo]

How much has Steve already earned? If he took 7M on a 10 year contract=$70,000,000.00  not bad chump change to add to his aready stuffed bank account. I think I could live on this (plus the Canadian endorsment market, another 1-2M a year).
I wasn't born in a barn and lets face it we are all greedy piggys, but he may just give something of a home discount to make it happen.

7 years is the term limit.

 

[Highlander]

I didnt know that, thanks.

 

[nutman]

I would sign him for the right price, not no insane number though. I am hoping he can see the talent we have coming up and wants to be part of leaf history, thus giving us a big discount.
seven mil per over six yrs is the max I would go.

 

[Deebo]

I would sign him for the right price, not no insane number though. I am hoping he can see the talent we have coming up and wants to be part of leaf history, thus giving us a big discount.
seven mil per over six yrs is the max I would go.

That is less than his expiring contract

 

[Joe S.]

Well I'd still like him on the leafs.

Call me crazy but I think this team could be drastically improved over last season with Stamkos and a goalie.

I don't see why it hurts to have a veteran star amongst the kids...