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Tavares

Zee said:
louisstamos said:
Zee said:
I think we should refrain from all Tavares speculation until June 30th if he's not signed yet. Then it's all hands on deck.  ;D

At least it's been relatively reserved thus far?  Remember the Stamkos thread?

True enough, Stamkos was a huge tease too, takes it almost to the deadline and then signs in Tampa.
Funny but I don't get Tavares, every time I watch the Islanders he is near invisible, but what do I know, I felt the same way about Gretzky. Perhaps some of these guys are so good they make what they do seem easy. 
 
Highlander said:
Zee said:
louisstamos said:
Zee said:
I think we should refrain from all Tavares speculation until June 30th if he's not signed yet. Then it's all hands on deck.  ;D

At least it's been relatively reserved thus far?  Remember the Stamkos thread?

True enough, Stamkos was a huge tease too, takes it almost to the deadline and then signs in Tampa.
Funny but I don't get Tavares, every time I watch the Islanders he is near invisible, but what do I know, I felt the same way about Gretzky. Perhaps some of these guys are so good they make what they do seem easy.
Seriously about Gretzky? [emoji23] He had like 215 points one season.


From 1981-82 to 85-86 he averaged 207 points a season. Man.
 
I have to admit the Leafs were so bad for so long that I stopped watching the game for a long time (about 12 years).  For 5 of those I chose to live without a TV.
 
Are you guys ready for the onslaught of media yammering about Tavares to Toronto? The Leafs host the Islanders this Thursday.
 
herman said:
Are you guys ready for the onslaught of media yammering about Tavares to Toronto? The Leafs host the Islanders this Thursday.

It's actually amazing how little we've heard about it from the media so far.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
Are you guys ready for the onslaught of media yammering about Tavares to Toronto? The Leafs host the Islanders this Thursday.

It's actually amazing how little we've heard about it from the media so far.

Thankfully, that's largely due to the fact the Leafs don't have a glaring need for a 1st line C.
 
bustaheims said:
Thankfully, that's largely due to the fact the Leafs don't have a glaring need for a 1st line C.

I mean it's not like that stopped the speculation with Stamkos last year. I just think we heard a heck of a lot more about him then we did about Tavares. And Tavares is a lot more likely to hit the open market (or at least he should be).
 
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
Thankfully, that's largely due to the fact the Leafs don't have a glaring need for a 1st line C.

I mean it's not like that stopped the speculation with Stamkos last year. I just think we heard a heck of a lot more about him then we did about Tavares. And Tavares is a lot more likely to hit the open market (or at least he should be).

Big difference with the Stamkos speculation was we didn't have the first overall pick established yet.
 
herman said:
Big difference with the Stamkos speculation was we didn't have the first overall pick established yet.

The speculation started very early before Matthews sure but getting him didn't change anything. We still heard about Stamkos a lot throughout last years season. I guess playing Tampa more than we play the Islanders is a big part of that.
 
So what does everyone think he'll realistically get on the open market? I've having troubles seeing him come in for less than $9.5M/year on a long-term deal.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
Big difference with the Stamkos speculation was we didn't have the first overall pick established yet.

The speculation started very early before Matthews sure but getting him didn't change anything. We still heard about Stamkos a lot throughout last years season. I guess playing Tampa more than we play the Islanders is a big part of that.

His social media games didn't not add fuel to the fires.

Him bailing on any further UFA proceedings right after he heard our (very tempered) pitch, was pretty telling to me that he would've landed here if we didn't have Matthews. Haha, Detroit.
 
Bullfrog said:
So what does everyone think he'll realistically get on the open market? I've having troubles seeing him come in for less than $9.5M/year on a long-term deal.

If he's just after cash? I bet he could get 11 or 12 per. If you're Vegas how would you not just write him a blank check?
 
Bullfrog said:
So what does everyone think he'll realistically get on the open market? I've having troubles seeing him come in for less than $9.5M/year on a long-term deal.

Somewhere between paying him his jersey number per year (9.1M AAV), or his jersey number in total salary (13M/7).

He has been reported to not care as much about how much he's paid as he is about winning though.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
The speculation started very early before Matthews sure but getting him didn't change anything. We still heard about Stamkos a lot throughout last years season. I guess playing Tampa more than we play the Islanders is a big part of that.

Maybe, but having Matthews for the last 2 years of his contract didn't hurt, either - especially once he established himself. The Stamkos speculation really started going into the 2nd last season of his last contract, but didn't really get going in earnest until closer to the end of that season/when he didn't sign an extension that summer. And, of course, while landing Matthews in the weeks leading up to Stamkos becoming a UFA changed the Leafs' position, the media had fully bought into the Stamkos to Toronto narrative, and they weren't going to back down in the home stretch.
 
bustaheims said:
And, of course, while landing Matthews in the weeks leading up to Stamkos becoming a UFA changed the Leafs' position, the media had fully bought into the Stamkos to Toronto narrative, and they weren't going to back down in the home stretch.

I had a brain fart. For some reason I thought Stamkos signed his new deal just last summer, not two summers ago. Man time flies.
 
I just had the same thought. I was naively thinking he'd have a similar deal to Stamkos, but given that was two years ago, things have changed. Tavares is more of a complete player too.
 
Bullfrog said:
I just had the same thought. I was naively thinking he'd have a similar deal to Stamkos, but given that was two years ago, things have changed. Tavares is more of a complete player too.

Stamkos took a pretty big Stanley Cup/tax friendly contract from Tampa though. Toronto's offer to him was reportedly 7 years @ $10.5mil per. Tavares would definitely get offers like that too, if not more.
 
I was listening to prime time the other day and the question was asked 'name a prime time ufa who signed their mega deal with a new team since the last cba' and they couldn't name one. I can't think of one either. These stars all seem to be resigning with their own teams. And I'm not talking Marleau level ufas. I'm talking these 7-8 year mega deals for the top echelon of players.
 
Joe S. said:
I was listening to prime time the other day and the question was asked 'name a prime time ufa who signed their mega deal with a new team since the last cba' and they couldn't name one. I can't think of one either. These stars all seem to be resigning with their own teams. And I'm not talking Marleau level ufas. I'm talking these 7-8 year mega deals for the top echelon of players.

Parise and Suter would be the more recent ones, and those were just before this current CBA. I really don't think there's anyone who can really be considered a superstar since then.
 
Suban, toews, Kane, stamkos.... those are the kind of players I'm thinking of. Even kessel I suppose... those 8 mil + type contracts
 
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