Leafaholic99
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Madferret said:
What was your job?
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What was your job?
TheMightyOdin
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Just watching global news and they showed a couple surveillance videos of people stealing poppy donation boxes.
WTF! It makes me so heated... I would ruin somebody I caught doing that.
WTF! It makes me so heated... I would ruin somebody I caught doing that.
Guru Tugginmypuddah
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TheMightyOdin said:
It was Madferret!!!!
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Stebro
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Im in a mood where I just feel like telling everyone and everything to f*ck off...so I started by deleting my facebook-account 
To make a long story short, im tired of most things. I've only had temporary jobs so far in my "career", while I see friends and family get better jobs, better salary, better development and yet they whine a lot. I can take that. I've never had the right to even negotiate my salary since I've had temporary jobs. And what pisses me off is that people around me constantly tell me that I should be happy that I have a temporary job, and that it's better than nothing.
And why should I settle with crap like this time after time after time. And then I should be greatful since I get offered another temporary job with low pay that I am overqualified for. And then it's like people are patting me on the head and telling me that I should be greatful. I'm almost 30 I've never had a "real" job, I've never received a salary increase, I've been overqualified for all the jobs I have had if you look at my education. And I should be greatful.
And then I hear other people with the same education much better work, development, salary increases lots of chances. "Oh, I only got this and that much in salary increase", "oh my salary is so low bohoo bohoo", and then they've got a lot more than me. And I hate it when women do this especially, because they always tell me "well, since you're a male you must have a lot more, I bet you got a really big increase". Then I tell them that im not even allowed to negotiate, and then I tell them that I have a temporary job. Then they get all surprised and stop whining.
To make a long story short, im tired of most things. I've only had temporary jobs so far in my "career", while I see friends and family get better jobs, better salary, better development and yet they whine a lot. I can take that. I've never had the right to even negotiate my salary since I've had temporary jobs. And what pisses me off is that people around me constantly tell me that I should be happy that I have a temporary job, and that it's better than nothing.
And why should I settle with crap like this time after time after time. And then I should be greatful since I get offered another temporary job with low pay that I am overqualified for. And then it's like people are patting me on the head and telling me that I should be greatful. I'm almost 30 I've never had a "real" job, I've never received a salary increase, I've been overqualified for all the jobs I have had if you look at my education. And I should be greatful.
And then I hear other people with the same education much better work, development, salary increases lots of chances. "Oh, I only got this and that much in salary increase", "oh my salary is so low bohoo bohoo", and then they've got a lot more than me. And I hate it when women do this especially, because they always tell me "well, since you're a male you must have a lot more, I bet you got a really big increase". Then I tell them that im not even allowed to negotiate, and then I tell them that I have a temporary job. Then they get all surprised and stop whining.
Stebro said:Im in a mood where I just feel like telling everyone and everything to f*ck off...so I started by deleting my facebook-account
To make a long story short, im tired of most things. I've only had temporary jobs so far in my "career", while I see friends and family get better jobs, better salary, better development and yet they whine a lot. I can take that. I've never had the right to even negotiate my salary since I've had temporary jobs. And what pisses me off is that people around me constantly tell me that I should be happy that I have a temporary job, and that it's better than nothing.
And why should I settle with crap like this time after time after time. And then I should be greatful since I get offered another temporary job with low pay that I am overqualified for. And then it's like people are patting me on the head and telling me that I should be greatful. I'm almost 30 I've never had a "real" job, I've never received a salary increase, I've been overqualified for all the jobs I have had if you look at my education. And I should be greatful.
And then I hear other people with the same education much better work, development, salary increases lots of chances. "Oh, I only got this and that much in salary increase", "oh my salary is so low bohoo bohoo", and then they've got a lot more than me. And I hate it when women do this especially, because they always tell me "well, since you're a male you must have a lot more, I bet you got a really big increase". Then I tell them that im not even allowed to negotiate, and then I tell them that I have a temporary job. Then they get all surprised and stop whining.
I've still got a few years to catch up to 30, but I definitely hear that. I feel like my B.A. is completely worthless.
Maybe you can get an accreditation at a college for a specific job? I'm thinking about doing a Project Management certification or something of the like.
Why can't I find rice paper anywhere? I went to an Asian run store the other day and they didn't carry any! I bought all the ingredients for fresh vegetable spring rolls and they're slowly going to waste, and I don't want to go that far out of my way just to buy some rice paper, closest place would be College/Spadina. I can get there as I'm at Keele/Bloor area now, but I don't want to waste $6.00 on fare for $3.00 rice paper!! Serves me right for trying to eat healthier.
GhostofPotvin29
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Complain all you want about the Occupy stuff, but this is messed up:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/california-university-to-investigate-chilling-police-action-against-occupy-protesters/article2242587/
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/california-university-to-investigate-chilling-police-action-against-occupy-protesters/article2242587/
GhostofPotvin29
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TML fan said:
Yeah, I think using violence to break up protests is standard practice in Syria too, actually. No biggie.
GhostofPotvin29
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Saint Nik said:
GhostofPotvin29
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TML fan said:
I just said using force.
I would find it more funny that you equate protesting peacefully and sitting in a circle to anarchy.
Whether or not they defied orders to move (it is unclear why exactly peaceful protestors would need to move), I still don't see the point nor the need to walk up and down a line of people sitting in a row spraying them in the face with, for all intents and purposes, a chemical weapon (at least one person had burns from it on her and had to be treated).
Whether it is 'standard operating procedure' or not, it seems to be a very disproportionate and unethical response in what is supposed to be a beacon of democracy.
Just because a police officer does something does not automatically make it right (or wrong of course). There was just a police officer in New York reprimanded for using pepper spray outside the department guidelines.
If you're okay with a police officer doing that to a group of peaceful protestors, then fine. I personally think that is disgusting, but to each their own.
You said violence. Why would you use Syria as an example when there is a very clear difference between the type of force applied in this instance. I know what you were implying and it's not accurate.
Failure to comply with the law is a lot closer to anarchy than a couple of people getting pepper sprayed is to despotic rule.
Like the man said in the article, pepper spray is a compliance tool. The protestors were non compliant. It's use is authorized in this situation by most accepted use of force models. What you think about it from an ethical point of view is irrelevant to whether the police are justified or not.
As I said, the only question in this situation as to whether or not this is justified is if the police are acting within their lawful duty to remove the protestors.
Failure to comply with the law is a lot closer to anarchy than a couple of people getting pepper sprayed is to despotic rule.
Like the man said in the article, pepper spray is a compliance tool. The protestors were non compliant. It's use is authorized in this situation by most accepted use of force models. What you think about it from an ethical point of view is irrelevant to whether the police are justified or not.
As I said, the only question in this situation as to whether or not this is justified is if the police are acting within their lawful duty to remove the protestors.
Kin
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TML fan said:
Any act of violence on the part of police could be euphemistically referred to as a compliance tool. It's not a concrete term and trying to pass it off as such is pointless.
TML fan said:
No, see, we're members of society. And how police act actually does need to line up with our beliefs and standards. Potvin's opinion may not carry the day but the opinion of the public as to how the police act is absolutely relevant to what they're justified to do in response to a peaceful protest.
TML fan said:
That's only true in using the narrowest possible sense of the word "justified". Potvin pretty clearly isn't referring to legal justification, something the state can grant their own agents, but whether or not it reflects the values of the citizens they're policing. Saying that such a thing isn't even a valid question to be asking is far more Syrian than just the use of pepper spray.
Actually Nik, it IS a concrete term under most use of force models. There are guidelines when this type of force can be applied and failure to adhere to those guidelines can have serious legal consequences.
Potvin or anyone else is certainly entitled to their opinion. I believe in the rule of law and that society cannot function without it. I believe that, even in a free society, that people cannot just do anything they want without consequences. I was explaining the legal standpoint to him and he attacked my beliefs. If he wants to discuss things that way I can do the same.
You can freely question the police actions but if you're going to attack them you should understand where they are coming from. Morally reprehensible? Maybe. Legally justified? Assuming they have legal authority to remove them, absolutely.
I think examining the legal authority is the first thing you need to do to decide if this is a morally justified incident. Do you think it's morally justified to break the law whenever it suits your purpose?
Potvin or anyone else is certainly entitled to their opinion. I believe in the rule of law and that society cannot function without it. I believe that, even in a free society, that people cannot just do anything they want without consequences. I was explaining the legal standpoint to him and he attacked my beliefs. If he wants to discuss things that way I can do the same.
You can freely question the police actions but if you're going to attack them you should understand where they are coming from. Morally reprehensible? Maybe. Legally justified? Assuming they have legal authority to remove them, absolutely.
I think examining the legal authority is the first thing you need to do to decide if this is a morally justified incident. Do you think it's morally justified to break the law whenever it suits your purpose?