The Unofficial Fire Ron Wilson/Ron Wilson is the Greatest Thread

[lc9]

The Leafs do forecheck, and I really don't notice d-men pinching a lot.  I see it a few times, but it is nothing to worry about.  The two problems that have plagued the team the entire season is their inability to get out of their zone with the puck.  They have weak shots, errant passes, turnovers and cannot handle a forecheck.  Instead of being calm, the players run around like they lost their heads.  The second problem is they are not physical enough and play soft man to man coverage that allows the other team to set up and cycle the puck around.  This forces Leaf players to run around trying to cover the other player, and that wears out the Leaf players.  All that results in decent scoring chances for the other team.
 

Every team forechecks, the Leafs just do it poorly.  And the defenseman pinching is a big issue, I don't know how you wouldn't notice.  Dion, Schenn and Gunnarson all pinch way too much.  Franson has gotten better, but still gets caught too much.

 

[Mikhail Bloodnovsky]

The Leafs do forecheck, and I really don't notice d-men pinching a lot.  I see it a few times, but it is nothing to worry about.  The two problems that have plagued the team the entire season is their inability to get out of their zone with the puck.  They have weak shots, errant passes, turnovers and cannot handle a forecheck.  Instead of being calm, the players run around like they lost their heads.  The second problem is they are not physical enough and play soft man to man coverage that allows the other team to set up and cycle the puck around.  This forces Leaf players to run around trying to cover the other player, and that wears out the Leaf players.  All that results in decent scoring chances for the other team.
 

Every team forechecks, the Leafs just do it poorly.  And the defenseman pinching is a big issue, I don't know how you wouldn't notice.  Dion, Schenn and Gunnarson all pinch way too much.  Franson has gotten better, but still gets caught too much.

Leafs forecheck ok but they are absolutely bad at cycling down low. This has probably something to do how smallish their forwards are but this lack of cycling means they spend so little time in the offensive zone. Once their speed has been neutralized they got nothing else going and often lose badly.

 

[Brian Glennie]

Just popped by to see if Wilson's been fired. Not yet, huh?
I'll check back after lunch.

 

[Zee]

Here's the post game presser from last night!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccksoOH4OnY

 

[L K]

The Leafs do forecheck, and I really don't notice d-men pinching a lot.  I see it a few times, but it is nothing to worry about.  The two problems that have plagued the team the entire season is their inability to get out of their zone with the puck.  They have weak shots, errant passes, turnovers and cannot handle a forecheck.  Instead of being calm, the players run around like they lost their heads.  The second problem is they are not physical enough and play soft man to man coverage that allows the other team to set up and cycle the puck around.  This forces Leaf players to run around trying to cover the other player, and that wears out the Leaf players.  All that results in decent scoring chances for the other team.
 

Every team forechecks, the Leafs just do it poorly.  And the defenseman pinching is a big issue, I don't know how you wouldn't notice.  Dion, Schenn and Gunnarson all pinch way too much.  Franson has gotten better, but still gets caught too much.

I will never understand why Schenn pinches so much.  He has absolutely no offensive instinct.

 

[Optimus Reimer]

Never mind gassing RW.  Gas the person who is responsible for working with the d-men.  I never saw a bunch of physically fit d-men who at times play like a bunch of sissies.

 

[Redleaf]

Just popped by to see if Wilson's been fired. Not yet, huh?
I'll check back after lunch.

That's gonna be one long lunch....

 

[Zee]

I'm gonna start calling him Teflon Ron, no matter how bad things get, he's never at fault.

 

[cw]

The Leafs do forecheck, and I really don't notice d-men pinching a lot.  I see it a few times, but it is nothing to worry about.  The two problems that have plagued the team the entire season is their inability to get out of their zone with the puck.  They have weak shots, errant passes, turnovers and cannot handle a forecheck.  Instead of being calm, the players run around like they lost their heads.  The second problem is they are not physical enough and play soft man to man coverage that allows the other team to set up and cycle the puck around.  This forces Leaf players to run around trying to cover the other player, and that wears out the Leaf players.  All that results in decent scoring chances for the other team.
 

Every team forechecks, the Leafs just do it poorly.  And the defenseman pinching is a big issue, I don't know how you wouldn't notice.  Dion, Schenn and Gunnarson all pinch way too much.  Franson has gotten better, but still gets caught too much.

I will never understand why Schenn pinches so much.  He has absolutely no offensive instinct.

I don't understand it either.

And he's too slow to get back into the play when he gets caught pinching. Phaneuf, Liles & Gardiner have a chance to get back to help out and the offensive skill to make it a more worthwhile risk.

 

[bustaheims]

Just popped by to see if Wilson's been fired. Not yet, huh?
I'll check back after lunch.

He won't be fired before the end of the season. The sooner you accept that, that happier you'll be.

 

[L K]

Just popped by to see if Wilson's been fired. Not yet, huh?
I'll check back after lunch.

He won't be fired before the end of the season. The sooner you accept that, that happier you'll be.

It "worked" for a few weeks.  Time to sign him to another 1 year extension?  Maybe Burke should start doing that with his players.  It seems only fair that guys who aren't generating success get contract extensions when the coach gets one.

 

[L K]

The Leafs do forecheck, and I really don't notice d-men pinching a lot.  I see it a few times, but it is nothing to worry about.  The two problems that have plagued the team the entire season is their inability to get out of their zone with the puck.  They have weak shots, errant passes, turnovers and cannot handle a forecheck.  Instead of being calm, the players run around like they lost their heads.  The second problem is they are not physical enough and play soft man to man coverage that allows the other team to set up and cycle the puck around.  This forces Leaf players to run around trying to cover the other player, and that wears out the Leaf players.  All that results in decent scoring chances for the other team.
 

Every team forechecks, the Leafs just do it poorly.  And the defenseman pinching is a big issue, I don't know how you wouldn't notice.  Dion, Schenn and Gunnarson all pinch way too much.  Franson has gotten better, but still gets caught too much.

I will never understand why Schenn pinches so much.  He has absolutely no offensive instinct.

I don't understand it either.

And he's too slow to get back into the play when he gets caught pinching. Phaneuf, Liles & Gardiner have a chance to get back to help out and the offensive skill to make it a more worthwhile risk.

I'd throw Franson into that group too.  Franson's at least smart enough to not hammer shots into the shinpads of the forward in front of him.  The top PP unit should be Liles Franson...not Phaneuf and Liles.  And they need to get Kessel to stop holding onto the puck for 25 seconds along the half-boards to go on the tangent of what is wrong with the PP.

 

[Kin]

He won't be fired before the end of the season. The sooner you accept that, that happier you'll be.

But what if that's the thing that makes him angry in the first place?

 

[bustaheims]

It "worked" for a few weeks.  Time to sign him to another 1 year extension?  Maybe Burke should start doing that with his players.  It seems only fair that guys who aren't generating success get contract extensions when the coach gets one.

It worked for more than a few weeks, if we're being completely honest. Even in the midst of this 4 game losing streak, the team is still in a playoff position and, as long as they don't go into a complete death spiral, they should make the post season for the first time since the lockout, which was the goal for this season. Has Wilson turned the team into a Cup contender? No, of course not, but, only the most unreasonable of people would really expect that with this roster. I'll buy that he might not be getting the most out of the team and that he might not be the best man for the job, but, a bad week or so doesn't change the fact that, overall, the team is living up to the expectations placed upon them this season. There's no reason to fire the coach when the team is not really under-performing, even if they haven't looked particularly good for the last couple games.

 

[bustaheims]

He won't be fired before the end of the season. The sooner you accept that, that happier you'll be.

But what if that's the thing that makes him angry in the first place?

Well, then there's no pleasing him.

 

[cw]

It worked for more than a few weeks, if we're being completely honest. Even in the midst of this 4 game losing streak, the team is still in a playoff position and, as long as they don't go into a complete death spiral, they should make the post season for the first time since the lockout, which was the goal for this season. Has Wilson turned the team into a Cup contender? No, of course not, but, only the most unreasonable of people would really expect that with this roster. I'll buy that he might not be getting the most out of the team and that he might not be the best man for the job, but, a bad week or so doesn't change the fact that, overall, the team is living up to the expectations placed upon them this season. There's no reason to fire the coach when the team is not really under-performing, even if they haven't looked particularly good for the last couple games.

I'm pretty close to where you are on this.

To his credit, Wilson has tried a bunch of things this year - far more than in previous years in my opinion.

The team is closer to the high side of many predictions. It's not a great club and not a terrible one. Goaltending has been erratic and many said that they needed last-season-Reimer-like goaltending to make the playoffs - which they haven't received very consistently.

If they fall short of the playoffs, even though it may border on being unwarranted given the projections, I'd definitely fire Wilson because these young players could learn more from a new face.

 

[cap44]

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[lc9]

If Washington wins tonight they will pass the leafs and Wilson won't be able to pretend like he is coaching a playoff team anymore.  3 way log jam for 8th.  Miss the playoffs and boot Wilson, I would rather that than Wilson stay on board after getting swept in the first round.

 

[Zee]

It's time for me to rear my ugly head into this thread once again.  It is time for Wilson to go.

 

[jdh1]

It's time for me to rear my ugly head into this thread once again.  It is time for Wilson to go.

To me Burke's finest move in the next couple of days would be to trade Wilson..only if that were possible..I mean fire him.This buddy buddy relationship is hurting the team.
If this was someone else,they would have been gone way before now.