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Toronto Maple Leafs vs Boston Bruins - Round 1

Guilt Trip said:
Fact is late in the game Babs put Goat out there with the 3rd line and sat him. Nylander's compete level needs to be a lot better.

This was one shift and the Bruins almost immediately scored despite starting in their defensive end. If I was looking for something to fault Babcock for that'd be it. Gauthier shouldn't be considered an upgrade over Nylander in any facet of the game.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Guilt Trip said:
Fact is late in the game Babs put Goat out there with the 3rd line and sat him. Nylander's compete level needs to be a lot better.

This was one shift and the Bruins almost immediately scored despite starting in their defensive end. If I was looking for something to fault Babcock for that'd be it. Gauthier shouldn't be considered an upgrade over Nylander in any facet of the game.
I agree but it's clear Babs has zero confidence in Willy. He needs to compete harder. I thought he was better but he still needs to amp it up some more.
Anyway, if you look at the replay on that play, Rielly was waaay out of position and the only reason Krejci was open. Horrible coverage by him. It worked out luckily.
 
I'm honestly looking for opinions here: what is it about Nylander's play that makes someone think he needs to be more competitive?
 
Bill_Berg said:
For 6 million a year, Marleau should be a key contributor.

So now you want him to return to his form from 5 or 6 years ago?

Also, because he's not a key contributor(on the score board), he's suddenly a 4th liner. I don't buy it.
 
Bullfrog said:
I'm honestly looking for opinions here: what is it about Nylander's play that makes someone think he needs to be more competitive?

I think people are looking for him to go head first into corners. I don't think you'll see that from him. That's not him as a player. Like I said, he's a perimeter player.
 
I once had a warehouse job where there wasn't much to do during the day. Despite that, the boss did not like it to look like we weren't busy. So, for most of the summer, we had a stack of boxes in one corner of the warehouse and, whenever we didn't have someone who needed help finding a part, we'd move the boxes from that one corner to a different corner. Then, when we'd moved them all, we'd start moving them back to where they'd originally been.

Some people just want you to look like you're working hard, regardless of whether or not you're accomplishing anything.
 
Bullfrog said:
I'm honestly looking for opinions here: what is it about Nylander's play that makes someone think he needs to be more competitive?
There's times you see him totaly engaged, full balls to the wall, mucking it up and then you'll see him totally avoid any contact. I don't expect him to be Clark or Hyman. I want more of that guy who engages and less of the I want the avoid contact at all costs Nylander. Not expecting anything he hasn't done. I do like him better at centre tho and  thought he was better last night.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Anyway, if you look at the replay on that play, Rielly was waaay out of position and the only reason Krejci was open. Horrible coverage by him. It worked out luckily.

https://twitter.com/BruinsCLNS/status/1117965469955309568

To me Rielly was following/anticipating the play going along the board, which is what happened and he was cutting DeBrusk off from the net. Goat was the one who left Krejci to begin with to get closer to the puck but wasn't actually covering anyone. And then of course at the end of the clip he falls for no reason and blocks Rielly's path to the play.
 
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1118531001033142272

This is actually what Dubas said from the beginning of the season.
 
Hold the phone. Gauthier was on a Team Canada at the WJC and that team won? That changes everything!
 
Nik the Trik said:
Hold the phone. Gauthier was on a Team Canada at the WJC and that team won? That changes everything!

I'm sure that was all Gauthier playing a 4th line role and not *checks notes* Connor McDavid.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Nik the Trik said:
Hold the phone. Gauthier was on a Team Canada at the WJC and that team won? That changes everything!

I'm sure that was all Gauthier playing a 4th line role and not *checks notes* Connor McDavid.

Fat lot of good that has done for Edmonton :)
 
Nik the Trik said:
Hold the phone. Gauthier was on a Team Canada at the WJC and that team won? That changes everything!

Hey, are you saying that his two-year total of 0 goals, two assists and -3 rating in 14 WJC games DIDN'T help them win??
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Guilt Trip said:
Anyway, if you look at the replay on that play, Rielly was waaay out of position and the only reason Krejci was open. Horrible coverage by him. It worked out luckily.

https://twitter.com/BruinsCLNS/status/1117965469955309568

To me Rielly was following/anticipating the play going along the board, which is what happened and he was cutting DeBrusk off from the net. Goat was the one who left Krejci to begin with to get closer to the puck but wasn't actually covering anyone. And then of course at the end of the clip he falls for no reason and blocks Rielly's path to the play.

Coming into the D zone, the Goat never so much as looks over his shoulder to see where his man is.
 
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Goats have panoramic vision so they don't have to turn their heads as much to see peripherally.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Guilt Trip said:
Anyway, if you look at the replay on that play, Rielly was waaay out of position and the only reason Krejci was open. Horrible coverage by him. It worked out luckily.

https://twitter.com/BruinsCLNS/status/1117965469955309568

To me Rielly was following/anticipating the play going along the board, which is what happened and he was cutting DeBrusk off from the net. Goat was the one who left Krejci to begin with to get closer to the puck but wasn't actually covering anyone. And then of course at the end of the clip he falls for no reason and blocks Rielly's path to the play.
Maybe it's the style they play now but I always tell my D to get to the house but I get why Rielly went where he was. I'd still prefer the D man to go in front and have the centre pick up DeSuck.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Nik the Trik said:
Hold the phone. Gauthier was on a Team Canada at the WJC and that team won? That changes everything!

I'm sure that was all Gauthier playing a 4th line role and not *checks notes* Connor McDavid.

Gauthier 2 points in 17 GP - 1 gold medal

Nylander 11 points in 8 GP - 0 gold medals

More proof that I don't want William on my team.
 
Here are my hot takes after last nights game, because gender bender loves these so much :)

I definitely think the odds-on favorite is still Boston here. The pendulum might have swung more in the Leafs favour after game 3, but its clearly back on Bostons side now.

That being said, the Leafs are in a better position, and I believe they have better odds of beating the Bruins this year than they did last year.

The Leafs seem to reach into their reserve tank when they play as underdogs, and when they absolutely need to win.

It was reported after last nights game there was a lot of anger in their dressing room, and I really hope that shows in their final few games of this series. Their resentment for past playoff loses to this Bruins team and their passion for winning big games needs to grow and not wither from here on out. If that happens, I think they can win the 2 out of 3 games needed to clinch the round. If they wither under pressure in Boston on Friday, I'll take this all back.
 

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