GhostofPotvin29
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L K said:
Whoops, I said $1 million earlier, but you're right on that part.
Wings @ Leafs - Mar. 29th, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050
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Whoops, I said $1 million earlier, but you're right on that part.
Stronger Than All
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L K said:
ya you can.
i cant get excited yet. have this this scene too many times.
how about this time we dont play flat for most of third period. we dont pull the goalie and we dont let them score an empty netter.
instead to push and dictate the play, tie it up and then keep pushing and punishing them until we get the lead.
AND ACTION!
how about this time we dont play flat for most of third period. we dont pull the goalie and we dont let them score an empty netter.
instead to push and dictate the play, tie it up and then keep pushing and punishing them until we get the lead.
AND ACTION!
ZBBM
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Kessel - Bozak - JVR
?- Kadri - ?
Kulemin - Holland - ?
Bodie - ? - Clarkson
Rielly - ?
Gardiner - Gunnarsson
Gleason - ?
Bernier
?
Coach: ?
Folks, they have to find a way to move Phaneuf. He has considerable value to the right club. Do that, and you can keep Gardiner (and hope his D improves).
I like Lupul, but they need a good defenseman to play with Rielly on the top pairing. That's where Rielly is going anyway, so they may as well start playing him there next year.
I would also re-sign Raymond if he doesn't want too much of a raise, but probably not happening.
?- Kadri - ?
Kulemin - Holland - ?
Bodie - ? - Clarkson
Rielly - ?
Gardiner - Gunnarsson
Gleason - ?
Bernier
?
Coach: ?
Folks, they have to find a way to move Phaneuf. He has considerable value to the right club. Do that, and you can keep Gardiner (and hope his D improves).
I like Lupul, but they need a good defenseman to play with Rielly on the top pairing. That's where Rielly is going anyway, so they may as well start playing him there next year.
I would also re-sign Raymond if he doesn't want too much of a raise, but probably not happening.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
I know you don't like Phaneuf, I won't really get into that argument here. But based on your 2nd sentence, given that there's a good chance we'll have a new coach with a new system next season don't you think it's possible Phaneuf would be a better Leaf post-Carlyle?
ZBBM
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CarltonTheBear said:
We saw his top end earlier in the year. He was pretty darned good for awhile, but he's never been able to sustain that for more than a couple of months or so. I think you could have Ken Hitchcock coaching him and it wouldn't make him any better than that. Too many flaws.
L K
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The thing is that a "blow up" in the right hands might not actually be a true blow-up.
Let's just say hypothetically that Vancouver would take Phaneuf in some form of Edler trade. Let's just say hypothetically that you work out a trade of Reimer + stuff (Lupul?) for Enstrom with Winnipeg.
Then you bring in 1-2 guys in free agency. Retool your 3rd/4th lines with a full season of:
Holland - Ashton - Clarkson (you have to give it another year before biting the bullet on a pretty significant cap buyout)
Bodie - McClement - Komarov
The Leafs go back to having a speedy and physical bottom 6. I work pretty hard to bring Kulemin back because personally I'm a big fan of him and think that he can actually work well with Kadri if we get the right guy on his line. Then you sign someone like Moulson/Hemsky/someone else to fill that gap on the 2nd line.
Suddenly you have a roster of
Kessel - Bozak - JVR
Kulemin - Kadri - UFA
Holland - Clarkson - Ashton
McClement - Bodie - D'Amigo
Gardiner - Enstrom
Rielly - Edler
Gunnarsson - Gleason
Ranger/other
It's not a great lineup, but it's drastically different with just a few moves. Maybe they are moves that aren't viable, but who knows.
Or in my personal opinion, you accept what Phaneuf is, try and reduce his minutes of playing shutdown hockey and either switch him to the other side on the PP or drop him to the 2nd unit and change your strategy. I'd love to see the Leafs employ a 1-3-1 PP formation with Phaneuf on the point and having Kessel and a defenseman on the half-boards.
Let's just say hypothetically that Vancouver would take Phaneuf in some form of Edler trade. Let's just say hypothetically that you work out a trade of Reimer + stuff (Lupul?) for Enstrom with Winnipeg.
Then you bring in 1-2 guys in free agency. Retool your 3rd/4th lines with a full season of:
Holland - Ashton - Clarkson (you have to give it another year before biting the bullet on a pretty significant cap buyout)
Bodie - McClement - Komarov
The Leafs go back to having a speedy and physical bottom 6. I work pretty hard to bring Kulemin back because personally I'm a big fan of him and think that he can actually work well with Kadri if we get the right guy on his line. Then you sign someone like Moulson/Hemsky/someone else to fill that gap on the 2nd line.
Suddenly you have a roster of
Kessel - Bozak - JVR
Kulemin - Kadri - UFA
Holland - Clarkson - Ashton
McClement - Bodie - D'Amigo
Gardiner - Enstrom
Rielly - Edler
Gunnarsson - Gleason
Ranger/other
It's not a great lineup, but it's drastically different with just a few moves. Maybe they are moves that aren't viable, but who knows.
Or in my personal opinion, you accept what Phaneuf is, try and reduce his minutes of playing shutdown hockey and either switch him to the other side on the PP or drop him to the 2nd unit and change your strategy. I'd love to see the Leafs employ a 1-3-1 PP formation with Phaneuf on the point and having Kessel and a defenseman on the half-boards.
Stronger Than All
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How has Kessel looked tonight? I've only seen the end of the 2nd period.
We could use his scoring about now.
We could use his scoring about now.
ZBBM
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2badknees said:
Gunnarsson is the least of the Leafs defensive problems. That's just silly. Franson can go (although he's actually been better lately).
The rest of your post makes sense. Of course, they shouldn't have paid all that dough to a guy who, at a minimum, needs to be sheltered on the 2nd pairing.