Wings @ Nylanders - Dec. 6th, 7:00pm - SNO, TSN 1050

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/jonassiegel/status/1070713541215354880

uh, nevermind x2.

 

[Bullfrog]

I don't know what's with everyone and these lines for tonight.  Nylander hasn't played at all yet, right?  So he's very well-rested, right?  Then there's no reason not to run with:

Marner - Tavares - Nylander
Kapanen - Kadri - Nylander
Johnsson - Matthews - Nylander
          - Nylander -

The 4th line doesn't get much ice, and anyhow Nylander can just the possess the puck to himself for the duration of those shifts. 60:00 TOI is perfectly reasonable under these circumstances.  And it's not like he's doing it for free.

My only concern with that line-up is that Marner doesn't have a lot of experience on the left wing. Maybe Tavares-Nylander-Marner makes more sense?

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/jonassiegel/status/1070713541215354880

uh, nevermind x2.

 

[herman]

Babcock is so stupid.

Babcock is now so smart?

https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1070713330518712320

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1070720740742316033

 

[ZBBM]

https://twitter.com/jonassiegel/status/1070713541215354880

uh, nevermind x2.

Ja Babcock is so smart.

 

[ZBBM]

I don't know what's with everyone and these lines for tonight.  Nylander hasn't played at all yet, right?  So he's very well-rested, right?  Then there's no reason not to run with:

Marner - Tavares - Nylander
Kapanen - Kadri - Nylander
Johnsson - Matthews - Nylander
          - Nylander -

The 4th line doesn't get much ice, and anyhow Nylander can just the possess the puck to himself for the duration of those shifts. 60:00 TOI is perfectly reasonable under these circumstances.  And it's not like he's doing it for free.

My only concern with that line-up is that Marner doesn't have a lot of experience on the left wing. Maybe Tavares-Nylander-Marner makes more sense?

Now that's the kind of solid thinking that will end our Cup drought.  Well done.

 

[Deebo]

I don't know what's with everyone and these lines for tonight.  Nylander hasn't played at all yet, right?  So he's very well-rested, right?  Then there's no reason not to run with:

Marner - Tavares - Nylander
Kapanen - Kadri - Nylander
Johnsson - Matthews - Nylander
          - Nylander -

The 4th line doesn't get much ice, and anyhow Nylander can just the possess the puck to himself for the duration of those shifts. 60:00 TOI is perfectly reasonable under these circumstances.  And it's not like he's doing it for free.

My only concern with that line-up is that Marner doesn't have a lot of experience on the left wing. Maybe Tavares-Nylander-Marner makes more sense?

I'd go with Nylander-Nylander-Marner

 

[ZBBM]

I don't know what's with everyone and these lines for tonight.  Nylander hasn't played at all yet, right?  So he's very well-rested, right?  Then there's no reason not to run with:

Marner - Tavares - Nylander
Kapanen - Kadri - Nylander
Johnsson - Matthews - Nylander
          - Nylander -

The 4th line doesn't get much ice, and anyhow Nylander can just the possess the puck to himself for the duration of those shifts. 60:00 TOI is perfectly reasonable under these circumstances.  And it's not like he's doing it for free.

My only concern with that line-up is that Marner doesn't have a lot of experience on the left wing. Maybe Tavares-Nylander-Marner makes more sense?

I'd go with Nylander-Nylander-Marner

Even better.

 

[cabber24]

So Sparks then?

I would prefer they try Johnsson with Matthews and Nylander but having him with Kadri/Kapi may save us a Johnsson extension anyway.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/ThePointHockey/status/1070667781052469248

If you need a reminder of just how dominant Nylander can be, especially in the neutral zone, I suggest reading that article.

Remember how good Marner was at getting into the zone and setting up chances for his teammates?

Nylander did it nearly 40% more than Marner (~100 more zone entries).

 

[Coco-puffs]

https://twitter.com/ThePointHockey/status/1070667781052469248

If you need a reminder of just how dominant Nylander can be, especially in the neutral zone, I suggest reading that article.

Remember how good Marner was at getting into the zone and setting up chances for his teammates?

Nylander did it nearly 40% more than Marner (~100 more zone entries).

I know they used last years stats since there is nothing on Nylander so far this year, but I'd be interested to see how Marner is doing this year in that stat.  Seems to me like he is creating zone entries at a higher rate this year than previously.

 

[disco]

LOL! Carlton don't ever lose your sense of humour!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk3u7WlajNs&t=0s
knock, knock...  8)

 

[Zee]

Nylander and Dubas with the bro hug.

 

[herman]

I know they used last years stats since there is nothing on Nylander so far this year, but I'd be interested to see how Marner is doing this year in that stat.  Seems to me like he is creating zone entries at a higher rate this year than previously.

Not sure about his frequency and success rates off hand, but tactically, I've noticed he's making his incursions through the left wing most of the time, and then cut to the middle almost uncontested to great offensive benefit:

• RD usually has his stick on the wall side. Marner's cut to the middle from the left means he can keep his body between his check and the puck unless they want to try to play if off their backhand. Marner's edgework means he can just cut back off that and slip down the wall side.
• Marner coming down the left means no one is looking down the weakside where Hyman can come in on his strong side before sweeping through the slot to take away the goaltender's eyes. If there's an opening, that gives Marner a way to bounce a pass off Hyman to...
• Tavares is usually the screen that Marner uses on this 'pick and roll' play. Marner breaks through the line first, and then jukes off his speed to allow Tavares to plow through and maybe drag a defender off into a chaotic middle. All Tavares has to do is glide to the short post with his stick down, or open up for a tip.
• On the off chance there is no opening, Marner could complete the S curve and take it for a lap behind the net. Chances are, he'll spot Rielly creeping down to the left circle once the weakside opens up. Or he could bump it high to a D-man for a point shot tip.
• The main weapon here for Marner is his edgework coupled with his hockey sense. He knows where everyone is on the ice and their heading. Normally when a forward cuts into the OZ, he goes for a wide-stance glide so he doesn't get knocked off stride. Marner is almost always moving his feet, allowing him to maintain and even add speed on pivots, cross-overs, mohawks, whatevers to basically change the play angle and passing lanes as he orbits the net. Against a zone defense, that means a lot of defensive switches and decisions and communication and that leads to breakdowns.

 

[Phileas Fogg]

Normally I'd say one of these obvious mismatches on home ice is going to end up closer than everyone thinks, but in this case, I just can't see how the wings stay in it for long.

 

[Joe S.]

Burke now just said Nylander is the 8th best player on this team. Eighth.

 

[Zee]

Burke now just said Nylander is the 8th best player on this team. Eighth.

Awesome we have added more depth! Who did we get now?

 

[Phileas Fogg]

Burke now just said Nylander is the 8th best player on this team. Eighth.

Awesome we have added more depth! Who did we get now?

I keep telling you guys that Hainsey isn't as bad as you keep saying.

 

[dappleganger]

I have Willy 7th. Guessing Burke has Gardiner ahead of him. He's not too far off.

This isn't a knock on Willy. Glenn Anderson was 7th or 8th on those 80's Oilers teams and he's a Hall of Famer. Just means the Leafs are good.