2011-2012 NHL Thread

[GhostofPotvin29]

A lot of them were to the effect of Vigneault just looking for an excuse to pull Schneider, and that he wouldn't have pulled Luongo in that situation, etc., and that Schneider didn't have a chance on a couple (or weren't his fault).

This has basically happened tonight against Montreal - 3 goals on Luongo on 9 shots and not pulled.

Oh, and  ;D

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Pic of Artem Anisimov's celebration after a goal tonight:

 

[Sudafederov]

The whole exchange here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2K31bF2HxM

 

[ZBBM]

A fun little oddity culled from the NYT:

No Goals Allowed, but a Loss

Carolina goalie Mike Murphy made his N.H.L. debut Tuesday night and pulled off what seemed to be a logical impossibility: he received a regulation loss without surrendering a goal.

Murphy replaced Cam Ward with about nine minutes left and the Hurricanes trailing Calgary, 6-3. He faced only two shots, stopping both, and was removed for an extra attacker with under two minutes left and his team down, 6-4.

Sitting on the bench, Murphy watched the Flames get an empty-net goal, then returned to the crease. But Carolina scored twice in the game?s final half-minute, making the final score 7-6.

Hockey?s rules consider the winning goal the one that provides the margin of victory, in this case Calgary?s seventh goal.

Murphy was the Hurricanes? goalie of record when that goal was scored ? but because he was removed for the extra skater at the time, it does not count as a goal against on his personal statistics.

So Murphy, who has a 0.00 goals against average and a 1.000 save percentage, also has a 0-1 won-lost record. Elias Sports Bureau could find no other time in N.H.L. history when that had occurred.

?Cam Ward is such a great goalie and great person, I?ll take a loss for him any day,? Murphy said.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Pic of Artem Anisimov's celebration after a goal tonight:

If Anisimov had done that against the Leafs, Phaneuf would have thumped him on his next shift.

Tampa Bay was visibly angered and rightly so.  This is one time that I actually was on Downie's side.

 

[Kin]

Pic of Artem Anisimov's celebration after a goal tonight:

I don't get the big deal being made about this. It's a celebration. If you don't want the other guys to celebrate, stop them from scoring.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Pic of Artem Anisimov's celebration after a goal tonight:

I don't get the big deal being made about this. It's a celebration. If you don't want the other guys to celebrate,
stop them from scoring.

Absolutely nothing wrong with a player celebrating after scoring a goal, but, with that pose??!!  No, I'm sorry but that doesn't strike me as a celebratory type of pose..... rather, it is childish and stupid (gun/rifle hunting -like stance) for a sports athlete, in this case a hockey player to to do.

Besides, I've seen way better goal-scoring/player celebrations than that over the years.

 

[maplesyrup]

Was he aimed at anyone? I think that might make a difference. Otherwise, I think I'm cool with it. As a side, I personally miss the outlandish TD celebrations in football. At the end of the day, I'm paying to be entertained and well, they were entertaining.

 

[Kin]

Absolutely nothing wrong with a player celebrating after scoring a goal, but, with that pose??!!

It wasn't a pose. It was an action. You understand the concept of still photography, right? He pointed at the goal and shot. Teemu Selanne threw his glove up in the air and shot it down. It was neither novel nor egregious, just a celebration.

 

[Sucker Punch]

Was he aimed at anyone? I think that might make a difference. Otherwise, I think I'm cool with it. As a side, I personally miss the outlandish TD celebrations in football. At the end of the day, I'm paying to be entertained and well, they were entertaining.

I read he was aiming at the goalie.

 

[maplesyrup]

Was he aimed at anyone? I think that might make a difference. Otherwise, I think I'm cool with it. As a side, I personally miss the outlandish TD celebrations in football. At the end of the day, I'm paying to be entertained and well, they were entertaining.

I read he was aiming at the goalie.

If so, then yeah, bad form indeed.

 

[Kin]

Was he aimed at anyone?  I think that might make a difference. Otherwise, I think I'm cool with it. As a side, I personally miss the outlandish TD celebrations in football. At the end of the day, I'm paying to be entertained and well, they were entertaining.

He was pointing at the net he'd just scored into. I'm with you about the TD celebrations. They were fun. Some of the crazy soccer celebrations are hilarious. It's professional entertainment people.

 

[maplesyrup]

Net? Okay. Goalie? Not cool. - Just my view.

 

[Kin]

Net? Okay. Goalie? Not cool. - Just my view.

Sure. Problem there is that pointing at the goalie and pointing at the net are largely indistinguishable from each other if the goalie is in the net.

Personally, I figure a guy can act however he likes if he scores a goal/touchdown/whatever.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Was he aimed at anyone?  I think that might make a difference. Otherwise, I think I'm cool with it. As a side, I personally miss the outlandish TD celebrations in football. At
the end of the day, I'm paying to be entertained and well,
they were entertaining.

He was pointing at the net he'd just scored into. I'm with you
about the TD celebrations. They were fun. Some of the crazy
soccer celebrations are hilarious. It's professional
entertainment people.

Call them celebrations, call them actions, call them what you will, outlandish celebrations exist in football and soccer and I've seen my fair share.  The NFL/football in general has been particularly notorious with dome of these, but, it still strikes me as out of place when a hockey player does something such as what Arisimov did.

For some reason or other, outlandish celebrations look better on footballers.

Entertainment, yes.  Not always well-defined for everyone's tastes. 

 

[maplesyrup]

Net? Okay. Goalie? Not cool. - Just my view.

Sure. Problem there is that pointing at the goalie and pointing at the net are largely indistinguishable from each other if the goalie is in the net.

Personally, I figure a guy can act however he likes if he scores a goal/touchdown/whatever.

I don't know. I thought the goalie may have been off to the side somewhere. One probably shouldn't do the fake-snipe at someone directly. It's right there with the throat-slash which is also very bad form. I can see why the TB players too exception but hey, apart from that, bring on the flaming stick, icky shuffle, dirty bird, whatever... In principle I'm with you, Nik - as long as it's tasteful.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Here's what Tortorella had to say about it...

?I don?t blame Tampa at all for the way they reacted. I would hope our team would do the same thing. 'Artie' knows it was wrong. He feels awful about it. He apologized to the team right away."
- Rangers coach John Tortorella on the gesture Artem Anisimov made towards Tampa Bay goalie Mathieu Garon after scoring a goal Thursday night. The Lightning won the game 3-2 in a shootout.


Source:  THN

 

[Bullfrog]

Net? Okay. Goalie? Not cool. - Just my view.

Sure. Problem there is that pointing at the goalie and pointing at the net are largely indistinguishable from each other if the goalie is in the net.

Personally, I figure a guy can act however he likes if he scores a goal/touchdown/whatever.

Well, being a professional is one reason to not act like a jackass after scoring. They're professional athletes. if you want to call them entertainers, that's fine, but their entertaining is through their sport, not pointing a stick at a goalie and pretending it's a gun. Sure, it's an obvious symbol of "sniping" a goal, but it's not classy at all.

 

[Bullfrog]

Absolutely nothing wrong with a player celebrating after scoring a goal, but, with that pose??!!  No, I'm sorry but that doesn't strike me as a celebratory type of pose..... rather, it is childish and stupid (gun/rifle hunting -like stance) for a sports athlete, in this case a hockey player to to do.

Besides, I've seen way better goal-scoring/player celebrations than that over the years.

I generally don't mind it. I don't like him pointing it at the goalie though; that's akin to taunting to me which isn't called for.

However, even if it's considered a childish act, I consider skating over and punching him in the face even more childish.

 

[Kin]

They're professional athletes. if you want to call them entertainers, that's fine, but their entertaining is through their sport, not pointing a stick at a goalie and pretending it's a gun. Sure, it's an obvious symbol of "sniping" a goal, but it's not classy at all.

Everyone is entertained by different things. Some people like showmanship with their athletes, some don't. There's no right or wrong to it. Whether or not something is sufficiently "classy" isn't a hard and fast rule. I'm fine with those celebrations, others aren't. I loved Teemu's duck hunting celebration. I liked the choreographed TD dances. I don't think there's a need to take those things seriously.