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Corn Flake said:They can't not get something significant in return. The embarrassment factor here is high, after putting a policy in place last year about no lateral moves outside of the org to put a plug in this stuff... to then let this manager they so highly tout walk to a division rival.... if they allow that to happen for some middling prospect or less than it paints the team as a complete pushover and a joke.
For AA to have the press conference and say, "yeah we didn't get much, yeah we broke a team policy to let this guy go, yeah he's going to be in our face 20 games a year" would be just incredibly pathetic. The message to the fans would be horribly negative.
Nik V. Debs said:Corn Flake said:They can't not get something significant in return. The embarrassment factor here is high, after putting a policy in place last year about no lateral moves outside of the org to put a plug in this stuff... to then let this manager they so highly tout walk to a division rival.... if they allow that to happen for some middling prospect or less than it paints the team as a complete pushover and a joke.
For AA to have the press conference and say, "yeah we didn't get much, yeah we broke a team policy to let this guy go, yeah he's going to be in our face 20 games a year" would be just incredibly pathetic. The message to the fans would be horribly negative.
But there are practical considerations, right? I agree that it would look bad but their primary interest has to be the good of the club and if Farrell legitimately wants out, if that's sort of a known thing around the organization, they're in a tricky spot. Even if you don't think Farrell will sulk about it, I can't help but feel it's not something you want around.
Furthermore, there's an opportunity here. If the team isn't thrilled with what Farrell's done as manager, and there's lots of reasons why they might, they can make a very good argument that getting anything out letting him go is net victory and better for the club in the long run.
Corn Flake said:So practically, yeah if he wants out then you are better off moving on, but also what would be best for the org is to get something significant back and not just a token body, especially because of the team he would be going to.
Potvin29 said:Shi Davidi in his article for Sportsnet.ca about this suggests that the Jays have to get some really good compensation back, to offset the way the Red Sox have continuously leaked this stuff to the media, and to not be seen as a feeding club for other bigger teams to come in and snatch from.
Nik V. Debs said:I think common wisdom these days in baseball circles is that with a couple of exceptions a team is really just going to be as good as their talent level and that it's the rare, rare manager that makes a significant difference. Unless you're convinced Farrell is that sort of difference maker, and I really don't think there's any reason to at this point, I don't really see a downside. It's not like he's going to go Boston and become a genius.
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi
Mike Aviles going to #BlueJays, source confirms. @bradfo was first to report.
bob elliott @elliottbaseball
Don't be surprised if 1B Adam Lind also heads to Fenway
Corn Flake said:Don't know if a manager is a difference maker in terms of putting a team over the top but he can sure take an 'okay' team and destroy it, as Bobby Valentine did this year. Yeah the Sox aren't what they used to be but he certainly iced the cake this year by picking fights with players, using the media to dish out all kinds of criticism, etc. etc.
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi
I expect the Jays to look at Sandy Alomar Jr., who could interview for the Rockies? opening as well.
The Sarge said:Not quite in bed yet. So, (speculation) Farrell + Lind (a chunk of money) for Aviles? Have to think we move an infielder now.
Edit: Or, he just replaces Visquel.
Nik V. Debs said:The Sarge said:Not quite in bed yet. So, (speculation) Farrell + Lind (a chunk of money) for Aviles? Have to think we move an infielder now.
Edit: Or, he just replaces Visquel.
If I had to guess, I'd bet the idea isn't that he rides the bench but rather that he's a SS/2B option that will allow the Jays some latitude in either trading Escobar or keeping Hechevarria in the minors for another season.
Potvin29 said:Morosi suggests a possible replacement:
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi
I expect the Jays to look at Sandy Alomar Jr., who could interview for the Rockies? opening as well.
Do we think this will be a short/quick search?