2013-2014 NHL Thread

[maplesyrup]

I think its easily worse than any single transaction Burke made.

Yeah, probably, though, I had an equal level of hatred for the Tlusty/Paradis trade. That begin said, Tlusty is doing his best right now to make the progress he made over the past 2 seasons meaningless.

Not sure why but I had a feeling Tlusty's production wasn't going to be sustainable. I recall getting flamed as early as last year when saying that I didn't hate that trade. Sure, it turned out to be a loss and I still may be wrong about Tlusty but eh... I still maintain he's an easily replaceable player. 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I think the thing that bothered me the most at that time was that it was Steen PLUS Colaiacovo for Stempniak. I found that shocking. While Stempniak was well regarded at that time and was obviously playing well for St. Louis, I still felt like it was an overpayment. I'll admit I was a little biased because Steen was my favourite player on the team behind Sundin and Kaberle. But, I was always a staunch supporter of Steen over Stajan.

Yeah I remember at the time I could have stomached trading one of them for Stempniak, but both was just insane.

Carlo was my all-time favourite Leafs prospect and I really liked Steen too.

 

[Deebo]

I think its easily worse than any single transaction Burke made.

Yeah, probably, though, I had an equal level of hatred for the Tlusty/Paradis trade. That begin said, Tlusty is doing his best right now to make the progress he made over the past 2 seasons meaningless.

Not sure why but I had a feeling Tlusty's production wasn't going to be sustainable. I recall getting flamed as early as last year when saying that I didn't hate that trade. Sure, it turned out to be a loss and I still may be wrong about Tlusty but eh... I still maintain he's an easily replaceable player. 

It stings less for me because the Leafs have quality on the wing.

 

[Deebo]

Nothing official but sounds like the Flyers have traded Simmonds to the Oilers for Hemsky+

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

That's been reported by a fake account as being the deal.

 

[Deebo]

That's been reported by a fake account as being the deal.

Thanks, I didn't understand it from the flyers perspective at all. Makes sense that's its false.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Others are still reporting that talks are going on involving Simmonds, though.

 

[Jalili]

The Blues are looking stacked. Definitely could be a contender to win it all this year.

 

[hockeyfan1]

First there were the 'Perds'.  Now, we have 'CIumbus'...

Michael Chaput  @michaelchaput62
This isn't a spelling mistake. I had to make the helmet smaller. Which slid the o into hiding

 

[Frank E]

This morning, 24 points is just good enough to be inside of the playoff picture in the west (Vancouver), or it's good for first overall in the east (Tampa Bay).

Leafs record good enough for 11th in the league right now.  Certainly not great, but not bad either. 

 

[L K]

The West has put up 310 points this year for an average of 22.1 points per team.  They have done that in an average of 17.6 games played.  That puts them on an average 102.9 point pace.

The East has put up  271 points this year for an average of 16.9 points per team.  They have done that in an average of 17.1 games played.  That puts them on an average 81 point pace.

The top 8 teams in the East against the West are currently 28-26-5
The top 8 teams in the West against the East are currently 51-11-8
The bottom 8 teams in the East against the West are currently 9-30-11
The bottom 8 teams in the West against the East are currently 22-18-3

The top 8 teams in the West against the West are: 44-15-12
The top 8 teams in the East against the East are: 49-24-2

The West is MUCH better than the East so far this year but what really is telling is just how bad the bottom 8 in the East is relative to the West. 

Some of the Western conference teams have completely unsustainable paces at this point in time.  Colorado/Anaheim/Chicago/St. Louis/San Jose all have 3 or fewer regulation wins right now.    They are 58-10-12.  That is two games off a full season pace.  Those five teams have combined for a point pace of 131 points.    The NHL record is 132 points by the 76-77 Canadiens.  It's just not sustainable that five teams are going to play at that pace for an entire 82 game schedule.  Things are going to have to balance out at some point. 

The West is still going to be much better over the course of the year, but I think things are going to normalize a bit as the season goes on.

 

[L K]

I think its easily worse than any single transaction Burke made.

Yeah, probably, though, I had an equal level of hatred for the Tlusty/Paradis trade. That begin said, Tlusty is doing his best right now to make the progress he made over the past 2 seasons meaningless.

Not sure why but I had a feeling Tlusty's production wasn't going to be sustainable. I recall getting flamed as early as last year when saying that I didn't hate that trade. Sure, it turned out to be a loss and I still may be wrong about Tlusty but eh... I still maintain he's an easily replaceable player.

Not that his season looks awesome on paper at this point but he has had a bit of a turnaround since starting the year with 0 points in his first 8 games.  3G 6 points in his last 9 games.  Nothing earth shattering, but it's nice to see him not completely fall of the face of the earth.  Regardless Paradis is a complete non-prospect and it was a dumb move by Burke to trade skill for a guy with no production ability simply because he is bigger.

Nothing remotely as bad as Steen trade, and Tlusty likely doesn't even crack this roster so it's a bit of a moot point.

 

[Kin]

Not that his season looks awesome on paper at this point but he has had a bit of a turnaround since starting the year with 0 points in his first 8 games.  3G 6 points in his last 9 games.  Nothing earth shattering, but it's nice to see him not completely fall of the face of the earth.  Regardless Paradis is a complete non-prospect and it was a dumb move by Burke to trade skill for a guy with no production ability simply because he is bigger.

Nothing remotely as bad as Steen trade, and Tlusty likely doesn't even crack this roster so it's a bit of a moot point.

And beyond that I think the reason that the trade rubbed so many people the wrong way was that Tlusty was so poorly managed an brought along that it seemed to be repeating the Steen trade where people were basing their opinions of a promising young player on just about the worst representation of him possible. So when he was written off and traded for Paradis, the people who supported the move basically did so on the basis of how Tlusty played on the 4th line of a terrible team as an overmatched 19 year old.

 

[Deebo]

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 5m
Additional video review, Hybrid Icing and possibility of extending overtime to 10 minutes, among a number of items discussed by GM's today.

I would love to see 10 minute OT period.

10 minutes of 4 on 4 and have games end in ties if OT ends without a goal, that would be ideal in my opinion.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I don't think we'll ever, ever see ties again, but 10 minutes of 4-on-4 action would be great. We'll definitely see a lot less shootouts that way.

 

[ZBBM]

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 5m
Additional video review, Hybrid Icing and possibility of extending overtime to 10 minutes, among a number of items discussed by GM's today.

I would love to see 10 minute OT period.

10 minutes of 4 on 4 and have games end in ties if OT ends without a goal, that would be ideal in my opinion.

I raise my glass to you, sir. 

 

[Crucialness Key]

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 5m
Additional video review, Hybrid Icing and possibility of extending overtime to 10 minutes, among a number of items discussed by GM's today.

I would love to see 10 minute OT period.

10 minutes of 4 on 4 and have games end in ties if OT ends without a goal, that would be ideal in my opinion.

Without or without shootout (hopefully without), I am still hoping for:

Regulation win --> 3 pts
OT/SO win --> 2 pts
OT/SO loss --> 1 pt
Regulation loss --> 0 pts

Ensuring that every game is worth the same total amount of points, and has equal weight in the standings.

Yes, it would likely lead to some new single-season points records, but historical comparison is already shot to hell with 3-point games anyway.

 

[Deebo]

I don't think we'll ever, ever see ties again, but 10 minutes of 4-on-4 action would be great. We'll definitely see a lot less shootouts that way.

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 6m
Holland says he believes there is some appetite to extending OT to 7 or 8 mins. Some GMs want 4on4 all the way, he likes 3on3 component...

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 6m
But it looks like this will be discussed -- expanding OT to de-emphasize shootout.

 

[maplesyrup]

Any step (as small as it may be) towards de-emphasizing the shootout is fine by me.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

Wow, the NHL is finally figuring out that people just don't like the shootout?