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2016-17 Centennial Leafs General Team Discussion

Nik the Trik said:
Coco-puffs said:
You mean like when he was paired with Ekblad on Team North America at the World Cup?  Or when he'll be on Team Canada in 2018.

Don't laugh at that last suggestion.  Almost all of Canada's star defensemen are right handed.  Only Duncan Keith and Vlasic-pickles stand out as better than Rielly among left-handed Canadian defensemen.

Giordano and Muzzin too.

Possibly/probably T.J. Brodie as well. And while maybe I don't agree with it, Bouwmeester is a Team Canada favourite as well.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Coco-puffs said:
You mean like when he was paired with Ekblad on Team North America at the World Cup?  Or when he'll be on Team Canada in 2018.

Don't laugh at that last suggestion.  Almost all of Canada's star defensemen are right handed.  Only Duncan Keith and Vlasic-pickles stand out as better than Rielly among left-handed Canadian defensemen.

Giordano and Muzzin too.

Are those guys really BETTER than Rielly?  It's nice to have Dougie Hamilton and Doughty as partners.  In Muzzin's case, he's having as bad a year as Rielly is, if not worse.

And I don't think either of them would do as well as Rielly on an Olympic Ice Surface.

Brodie:  Also having a worse year than Rielly on a better defensive team.  Not sure if he faces the oppositions best though or if it's the Gio-Hamilton pair.

Bouwmeester.  Getting old and its showing (-3.2 / -3.6 CF%Rel last two years).  I doubt he'd get picked ahead of Rielly unless Rielly starts next season poorly.

There was a reason they moved Pietrangelo over to the Left side at the World Cup.  Neither Bouwmeester or Muzzin were better than him on his off-side.  Muzzin barely played the whole tournament.  Vlasic took the lions share of the minutes out of the LHD.
 
Coco-puffs said:
Are those guys really BETTER than Rielly?  It's nice to have Dougie Hamilton and Doughty as partners.  In Muzzin's case, he's having as bad a year as Rielly is, if not worse.

Muzzin's played most of this year with Martinez, not Doughty, and he like Giordano, whose numbers were pretty good without Hamilton, have posted a better CF% and CF rel %. I'd go with both of them first.

Either way, I sort of agree with the conclusion you reach at the bottom. Canada would probably be better off stacking up with RHD than going with lesser LHD. Letang, Subban, Pietrangelo, Burns, Ekblad and on and on.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Either way, I sort of agree with the conclusion you reach at the bottom. Canada would probably be better off stacking up with RHD than going with lesser LHD. Letang, Subban, Pietrangelo, Burns, Ekblad and on and on.

Yeah. If Rielly is on the team it likely means that both Subban and Letang aren't. Team Canada has to stop over-thinking that.
 
Coco-puffs said:
LuncheonMeat said:
I don't think we'll see just how good Rielly is until he's paired with a defenceman who's better than he is.

You mean like when he was paired with Ekblad on Team North America at the World Cup?  Or when he'll be on Team Canada in 2018.

Don't laugh at that last suggestion.  Almost all of Canada's star defensemen are right handed.  Only Duncan Keith and Vlasic-pickles stand out as better than Rielly among left-handed Canadian defensemen.

I meant when he is paired with a Leafs' defenceman who is better than he is, although who knows if/when that will happen.
 
https://twitter.com/draglikepull/status/844903965783404545
www.twitter.com/draglikepull/status/844903965783404545

With Brian Boyle (with the Leafs): 47% 6-3-2
With Ben Smith (pre-injury): 53% 14-10-4
With Ben Smith (post-injury): 46% 4-4-3

These numbers are meaningless. I just enjoyed the pun.
 
TBLeafer said:
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Great find TBLeafer! Terrific video :D

Apparently Leafs have their eye on a couple D from the KHL this year. If we could score another Zaitsev it'd be yuge.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Kapanen's been called up.

https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/846372974764720129
www.twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/846372974764720129

Oh boy oh boy oh boy
 
Komarov - Kadri - Brown
JvR - Bozak - Marner
Nylander - Matthews - Kapanen
Martin - Boyle - Hyman

yea or nay?

Realistically, Kapanen starts with Martin - Boyle as a Sosh sub, but methinks that'd be a bit of a waste.
 
herman said:
Komarov - Kadri - Brown
JvR - Bozak - Marner
Nylander - Matthews - Kapanen
Martin - Boyle - Hyman

yea or nay?

Realistically, Kapanen starts with Martin - Boyle as a Sosh sub, but methinks that'd be a bit of a waste.

I like it... but as you said, its probably not realistic.
 
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/846393172855021568
www.twitter.com/reporterchris/status/846393172855021568

Confirmed.

But then this!
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/846384994654281728
www.twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/846384994654281728

Fortunately (or unfortunately) it was only because of this:
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/846389834642018307
www.twitter.com/reporterchris/status/846389834642018307
 
https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/846398320578908160

I hope the Kap has all his pertinent forms up to date. That fourth line has a 3000% casualty rate.
 
Last night, Nylander, Marner, and Kadri all hit 60 pts to join Matthews.

Only 2 teams have 4 players with 60 pts on the roster: Toronto, and Winnipeg (Scheifele 76, Wheeler 70, Laine 62, Ehlers 62). JvR is 2 pts away from hitting the 60 mark himself.

Pittsburgh is the next team with 3 (Crosby 84, Malkin 72, Kessel 67).

As mr grieves mentioned in the GDT, Toronto has the most team-drafted players with 60+.
 
herman said:
Last night, Nylander, Marner, and Kadri all hit 60 pts to join Matthews.

We talk a lot about the things Babcock does that irritate, vex and confound us but I will say that probably one of the better decisions he made was to maintain the balanced approach and resist the temptation to ever go with a more traditional top heavy approach.

I sometimes question its wisdom going forward and its ability to get things done in the playoffs but for this group in the regular season it really proved effective.
 
Nik the Trik said:
We talk a lot about the things Babcock does that irritate, vex and confound us but I will say that probably one of the better decisions he made was to maintain the balanced approach and resist the temptation to ever go with a more traditional top heavy approach.

I sometimes question its wisdom going forward and its ability to get things done in the playoffs but for this group in the regular season it really proved effective.

I really do liked the balanced attack. It forces opponents into matchup nightmares where one or two of our lines always has a good chance to run roughshod. In the playoffs, I think it'd be pretty easy to shorten the bench to 3 or even 2 lines towards the end of the game. A lot of roles are hot-swappable for situational matchups too.

I'd still like to see a more skilled 4th line, but I can't argue with the results Martin - Boyle - Kapanen/Soshnikov have produced. It really helped Martin to have a centre that suited his style. While I would have rather had a better left winger to suit our original 4th line centre, it probably also causes some teams issues that we have, as LeafsGeeksPodcast put it, 3 Pens-style lines and 1 faster Kings-style line to deal with.
 

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