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bustaheims said:
Vegas's five wins are against: Arizona (twice), Buffalo, Boston and Dallas. So in addition to it being early, not exactly the toughest schedule...
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Vegas's five wins are against: Arizona (twice), Buffalo, Boston and Dallas. So in addition to it being early, not exactly the toughest schedule...
Frank E
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Zee said:
Arizona didn't have the luxury of spending to the cap like Toronto did during their rebuild to help acquire the extra assets.
They also didn't win the lottery.
Having said that, I think they've got a bunch of very interesting guys up front...they've got 6 forwards on their ELC's.
Their defense has a strong veteran presence, but half their forwards are kids...way younger than the Leafs forwards.
https://capfriendly.com/teams/coyotes
hockeyfan1
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cabber24 said:
Lucky bounce or not, Crosby sure knows how to make it bounce lucky. Only the way a Sidney Crosby can.
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herman said:
#97 made both Seabrook & Keith look like amateurs. Way to go, Connor!
Seems like the NHL forgot how their own offside challenge rules work and blew a call last night:
https://www.milehighhockey.com/2017/10/20/16507484/nhl-blows-offside-review-rule-colorado-avalanche-st-louis-blues
The gist:
1) An Avs player, Andrighetto, played the puck while offside on the offensive blue line. The linesman should have blown the play dead right there. No other Colorado players were in the zone at the time
2) Andrighetto, likely knowing he was offside, carried the puck out of the zone and then came back in on a clean zone entry
3) The Avs then scored a goal on the ensuing rush
The Blues challenged the play claiming the offside violation from point 1. But the rules on video challenges clearly state that goals can only be challenged if it occurs during the original offside state. So basically once point 2 happened they couldn't challenge point 1 anymore. For some reason, the refs allowed the challenge and nobody from the Toronto war room noticed this either, and the goal was overturned because of the offside from point 1. That goal would have tied the game with about 2 and a half minutes left, and the Avs lost in regulation.
https://www.milehighhockey.com/2017/10/20/16507484/nhl-blows-offside-review-rule-colorado-avalanche-st-louis-blues
The gist:
1) An Avs player, Andrighetto, played the puck while offside on the offensive blue line. The linesman should have blown the play dead right there. No other Colorado players were in the zone at the time
2) Andrighetto, likely knowing he was offside, carried the puck out of the zone and then came back in on a clean zone entry
3) The Avs then scored a goal on the ensuing rush
The Blues challenged the play claiming the offside violation from point 1. But the rules on video challenges clearly state that goals can only be challenged if it occurs during the original offside state. So basically once point 2 happened they couldn't challenge point 1 anymore. For some reason, the refs allowed the challenge and nobody from the Toronto war room noticed this either, and the goal was overturned because of the offside from point 1. That goal would have tied the game with about 2 and a half minutes left, and the Avs lost in regulation.
I am glad the goal didn't count, it should of have been dead play and they immediately scored. However, I also appreciate the rule as written because if that play had happened and then the puck went back and forth without a whistle and eventually they scored they shouldn't be able to challenge an offside on an entry multiple plays ago.CarltonTheBear said:
Can common sense not prevail sometimes? Do we have to be so literal all the time?
bustaheims
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cabber24 said:
Unfortunately, common sense is not so common, and the only way to maximize consistency is to be pretty strictly literal about enforcing rules in as many situations as possible.
Another dumb question. The first graph in this article ( Teammates and Competition, JVR, 2016-2017, red line indicates league average):
https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2017/10/20/16479534/toronto-maple-leafs-free-agents-van-riemsdyk-bozak-replacements-eller-perron-grabner-hornqvist
How does one interpret it exactly? They use these all the time on PPP and never explain the details. For example, there is a blue bar to left of the number 1 at the top of the graph. There is a small red bar on top of that. The combination of both bars fall short of the red line. This must say something like ?JVR spends x + y percent of his time on the ice with the Leafs #1 forward? where x is the length of the blue bar and y is the length of the red bar. Also, the red line suggests that the average NHL forward spends a greater amount of time on the ice with the #1 forward on the team than JVR.
Is that right?
Why is there both a red and a blue bar?
Bar #7 is the longest. Can I infer that JVR himself is the #7 leaf forward because the 7th line is the longest? Does the length of that bar (red and blue combined) represent 100% of JVR?s ice time?
https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2017/10/20/16479534/toronto-maple-leafs-free-agents-van-riemsdyk-bozak-replacements-eller-perron-grabner-hornqvist
How does one interpret it exactly? They use these all the time on PPP and never explain the details. For example, there is a blue bar to left of the number 1 at the top of the graph. There is a small red bar on top of that. The combination of both bars fall short of the red line. This must say something like ?JVR spends x + y percent of his time on the ice with the Leafs #1 forward? where x is the length of the blue bar and y is the length of the red bar. Also, the red line suggests that the average NHL forward spends a greater amount of time on the ice with the #1 forward on the team than JVR.
Is that right?
Why is there both a red and a blue bar?
Bar #7 is the longest. Can I infer that JVR himself is the #7 leaf forward because the 7th line is the longest? Does the length of that bar (red and blue combined) represent 100% of JVR?s ice time?
herman
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The image is from hockeyviz.com and indicates quality of teammates and competition based on ice time. You can read the explanation here!
http://hockeyviz.com/howto/qoct
For you non-clickers:
Blue bars are ice times as a percentage of the game of either teammates (on-ice with player in isolation), or competition. The numbers are just ice time rankings. The red line is the average percentage of ice time a player in those slots get per game.
The red stack of bar is the isolated player's ice time at those ice-time slots.
i.e. JvR spent most of his time as the 7-9th forward (3rd line) with 7-9th forwards (JvR-Bozak-Marner rarely ever changed last season) alongside an average mix of Toronto's defense. He and his line faced middle-to-bottom-six competition for the most part.
herman said:
The image is from hockeyviz.com and indicates quality of teammates and competition based on ice time. You can read the explanation here!
http://hockeyviz.com/howto/qoct
For you non-clickers:
Blue bars are ice times as a percentage of the game of either teammates (on-ice with player in isolation), or competition. The numbers are just ice time rankings. The red line is the average percentage of ice time a player in those slots get per game.
The red stack of bar is the isolated player's ice time at those ice-time slots.
i.e. JvR spent most of his time as the 7-9th forward (3rd line) with 7-9th forwards (JvR-Bozak-Marner rarely ever changed last season) alongside an average mix of Toronto's defense. He and his line faced middle-to-bottom-six competition for the most part.
Thanks Herman. Going to sleep but will investigate!
I still don?t understand this sentence:
?The red stack of bar is the isolated player's ice time at those ice-time slots.?
(How does one compute how much time a player spends at a particular ?slot??)
L K
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It was just one game but Price didn't look the greatest against the Leafs. If he's on the decline right after getting that huge contract that would be insane. Also very bad for Montreal as he props up their team.
In other news, Ovechkin is the first to 10 goals this year, Stamkos leads the NHL in points with 14 and Eichel is still sick of losing.
In other news, Ovechkin is the first to 10 goals this year, Stamkos leads the NHL in points with 14 and Eichel is still sick of losing.