2018-2019 NHL Thread
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Nik the Trik said:
Ideally something like that would just be the first step in building up women's hockey.
Regardless though I think you're grossly underestimating the effect even a half assed/token/small measure something like this has. Don't really know what else to say about that.
Kin
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CarltonTheBear said:
No, I'm wondering why we're looking for small measures as opposed to appropriately sized ones. I think history has taught us that if folks like the NHL can get away with small token gestures they will and point to their token gestures as evidence that they don't need to properly address things.
herman
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Up and down their structure, the NBA is far more progressive than the downright archaic NHL.
No other professional sports league hires executives overwhelmingly from its former player pool. They usually have professional executives, who can manage numbers and people.
It's very weird to me but also super obvious that mainstream hockey folk would look at a GAR model and dismiss it entirely based on 2 or 3 outlier players (by name recognition) rather than question their evaluation methods, and then at the same time take forever to sift out GMs whose outlier moves are the accidentally good ones.
No other professional sports league hires executives overwhelmingly from its former player pool. They usually have professional executives, who can manage numbers and people.
It's very weird to me but also super obvious that mainstream hockey folk would look at a GAR model and dismiss it entirely based on 2 or 3 outlier players (by name recognition) rather than question their evaluation methods, and then at the same time take forever to sift out GMs whose outlier moves are the accidentally good ones.
Kin
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herman said:
Which is why I tend to think that starting things off with all-star integration is probably a bad idea. Because realistically what you'd be exposing the public to is the reality that the women are actually slower than the men and don't do things like shoot the puck as hard.
Expose people to the actual game, not just throwing a few token women into a game with bunch of guys who are just trying not to get hurt. Like I said above, don't push for half-measures because then you're probably just going to get half-measures.
hockeyfan1
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The Leafs should sign her up...
hockeyfan1
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The Islanders turnaround: How coach Barry Trotz figures into this...
The Trotz Difference
TEAM SEASON ACTUAL GOALS FOR EXPECTED GOALS FOR DIFFERENCE
Islanders 2018-19 54.68 49.05 5.63
Capitals 2017-18 52.68 47.08 5.60
Capitals 2016-17 60.94 51.13 9.81
Capitals 2015-16 55.42 51.55 3.87
http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/25623936/trendspotting-tampa-bay-power-surge-sergei-bobrovsky-renaissance-more
The Trotz Difference
TEAM SEASON ACTUAL GOALS FOR EXPECTED GOALS FOR DIFFERENCE
Islanders 2018-19 54.68 49.05 5.63
Capitals 2017-18 52.68 47.08 5.60
Capitals 2016-17 60.94 51.13 9.81
Capitals 2015-16 55.42 51.55 3.87
http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/25623936/trendspotting-tampa-bay-power-surge-sergei-bobrovsky-renaissance-more
3 points separate the 8th-9th-10th place teams in the East right now.
In the West 3 points separate the 8th-9th-10th-11th-12th-13th-14th place teams.
In the West 3 points separate the 8th-9th-10th-11th-12th-13th-14th place teams.
bustaheims
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herman said:
Shut out by Ottawa last night for their 3rd 6+ game winless streak of the season. They're 2-14-4 in their last 20. The only question now is really if they bother firing Carlyle before the end of the season.
bustaheims
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herman said:
I think it'll either be a short-term guy while they rollover the roster, or a young guy that can grow with the new core they need to put in place.
bustaheims said:
Peter Horachek is available.