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2018-2019 NHL Thread

Bates said:
azzurri63 said:
Zee said:
So Dylan Strome has been point a game player since joining the Hawks. Perhaps the problem wasn't Strome but Arizona?
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I always wonder if Dubas looked into acquiring Strome.
Same situation as Puljuj?rvi in Edmonton.
Change of scenery might do him good.
High drafts players with tons of talent but they going to be boom or bust?
Would liked to have seem Strome reunited with Marner.
Probably meant Kadri being shipped.
Strome + for Kadri what everyone think?
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Have you ever watched Strome play?  I have watched him in AZ and his effort level was nothing. When you draft a big center with a top 5 pick I don't think you expect to need wingers to carry him. I don't think he will ever be as good as Kadri. Bad skating is hard to overcome in today's NHL.
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This is an odd time to rip on Strome considering how he's played in Chicago.  He has 30 points in 32 games.  It's the entire reason I mentioned him in the thread, he's risen from the ashes of Arizona to look like a real NHL player
 
Zee said:
Bates said:
azzurri63 said:
Zee said:
So Dylan Strome has been point a game player since joining the Hawks. Perhaps the problem wasn't Strome but Arizona?
Click to expand...

I always wonder if Dubas looked into acquiring Strome.
Same situation as Puljuj?rvi in Edmonton.
Change of scenery might do him good.
High drafts players with tons of talent but they going to be boom or bust?
Would liked to have seem Strome reunited with Marner.
Probably meant Kadri being shipped.
Strome + for Kadri what everyone think?
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Have you ever watched Strome play?  I have watched him in AZ and his effort level was nothing. When you draft a big center with a top 5 pick I don't think you expect to need wingers to carry him. I don't think he will ever be as good as Kadri. Bad skating is hard to overcome in today's NHL.
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This is an odd time to rip on Strome considering how he's played in Chicago.  He has 30 points in 32 games.  It's the entire reason I mentioned him in the thread, he's risen from the ashes of Arizona to look like a real NHL player
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Strome is playing with Kane also. That's helping just a wee bit, but still have to give him credit. He's making the most of the opportunity.
 
Bates said:
Have you ever watched Strome play?  I have watched him in AZ and his effort level was nothing. When you draft a big center with a top 5 pick I don't think you expect to need wingers to carry him. I don't think he will ever be as good as Kadri. Bad skating is hard to overcome in today's NHL.
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He was probably sulking because he wanted to play closer to home.
 
Zee said:
Bates said:
azzurri63 said:
Zee said:
So Dylan Strome has been point a game player since joining the Hawks. Perhaps the problem wasn't Strome but Arizona?
Click to expand...

I always wonder if Dubas looked into acquiring Strome.
Same situation as Puljuj?rvi in Edmonton.
Change of scenery might do him good.
High drafts players with tons of talent but they going to be boom or bust?
Would liked to have seem Strome reunited with Marner.
Probably meant Kadri being shipped.
Strome + for Kadri what everyone think?
Click to expand...

Have you ever watched Strome play?  I have watched him in AZ and his effort level was nothing. When you draft a big center with a top 5 pick I don't think you expect to need wingers to carry him. I don't think he will ever be as good as Kadri. Bad skating is hard to overcome in today's NHL.
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This is an odd time to rip on Strome considering how he's played in Chicago.  He has 30 points in 32 games.  It's the entire reason I mentioned him in the thread, he's risen from the ashes of Arizona to look like a real NHL player
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Drop a dead cat from twenty feet and it will bounce at least once. I stick with what I saw. That doesn't mean he will never try and never get points but what I saw was a guy not interested in putting in the effort to get the result. Maybe getting traded will be the wake-up call he needed but he wouldn't be the first guy to never put it together. I suspect not many here ever saw him play in AZ. I watched him in Glendale and Tucson, not a guy I want to see on the Leaf's.
 
Bates said:
Drop a dead cat from twenty feet and it will bounce at least once. I stick with what I saw. That doesn't mean he will never try and never get points but what I saw was a guy not interested in putting in the effort to get the result. Maybe getting traded will be the wake-up call he needed but he wouldn't be the first guy to never put it together. I suspect not many here ever saw him play in AZ. I watched him in Glendale and Tucson, not a guy I want to see on the Leaf's.
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Look, regardless of what you saw, the kid is putting up some pretty impressive numbers lately. His numbers were garbage in Phoenix, or Glendale, or wherever the hell they play until they get moved, but they're a whole lot better now.

Unsustainable?  Likely, but still certainly much better than the Phoenix days.

Maybe getting fired gave him a wake-up call to get his ass in gear.  Credit where credit's due, he's been a lot better.  Whether or not that keeps happening will be seen by both of us. 
 
Frank E said:
Bates said:
Drop a dead cat from twenty feet and it will bounce at least once. I stick with what I saw. That doesn't mean he will never try and never get points but what I saw was a guy not interested in putting in the effort to get the result. Maybe getting traded will be the wake-up call he needed but he wouldn't be the first guy to never put it together. I suspect not many here ever saw him play in AZ. I watched him in Glendale and Tucson, not a guy I want to see on the Leaf's.
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Look, regardless of what you saw, the kid is putting up some pretty impressive numbers lately. His numbers were garbage in Phoenix, or Glendale, or wherever the hell they play until they get moved, but they're a whole lot better now.

Unsustainable?  Likely, but still certainly much better than the Phoenix days.

Maybe getting fired gave him a wake-up call to get his ass in gear.  Credit where credit's due, he's been a lot better.  Whether or not that keeps happening will be seen by both of us.
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I think I just said that? My post was in regards to the previous posters blaming AZ for Strome doing squat there. That was on Strome. And I wouldn't want my team to trade for him.
 
I think it's interesting that despite the scoring numbers being way up, Strome's possession numbers are actually down a bit. I'm not sure if that lends weight to the idea that he's just hitched a ride on Kane's coattails but either way I'm reluctant to get too all in on the big start to his Chicago career.

That said, as a lot of people in the past have mentioned, it can take bigger players a little bit longer to sort things out and their awkwardness frequently gets mistaken for a lack of effort so I wouldn't be surprised if the people who gave up on him at 21 were as wrong as people so frequently are in this situation.
 
Nik the Trik said:
I think it's interesting that despite the scoring numbers being way up, Strome's possession numbers are actually down a bit. I'm not sure if that lends weight to the idea that he's just hitched a ride on Kane's coattails but either way I'm reluctant to get too all in on the big start to his Chicago career.

That said, as a lot of people in the past have mentioned, it can take bigger players a little bit longer to sort things out and their awkwardness frequently gets mistaken for a lack of effort so I wouldn't be surprised if the people who gave up on him at 21 were as wrong as people so frequently are in this situation.
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OK.  I'll buy into this.

Dubas need to trade for Crouse.
 
cabber24 said:
Hitchcock: Considered stepping down and also said the coaches want it more than the players.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/ken-hitchcock-reportedly-considered-stepping-down-as-head-coach-of-the-edmonton-oilers/ar-BBTytrn?li=AAggNb9

I feel he is being rather pompous and quite full of himself. He should probably do everyone and favor and step down.
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With all due respect when and article has rumours and It's pure speculation on my part, I tend not to put too much trust in the story. If Hitch himself said this, then that's another story. Also nowhere in that article is there a quote from Hitch saying the coaches want it more then the players. I have heard him say it tho, just isn't in this article.
Anyway, he's doing them a favour and if the players don't give a crap then I can see him saying why bother, even tho he hasn't officially yet.
 
Anything that makes Don Cherry get nonsensically irate is cool with me. Sticks in shooting lanes, running up a goal differential in tournaments, entertaining fans, not hitting vulnerable players on the ice, getting the best players from any part of the world to play hockey...
 
herman said:
Anything that makes Don Cherry get nonsensically irate is cool with me. Sticks in shooting lanes, running up a goal differential in tournaments, entertaining fans, not hitting vulnerable players on the ice, getting the best players from any part of the world to play hockey...
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Yeah, I mean, none of these things offend me or anything but the flip side of that is that it's a little sad to see the new hockey media being like OMGZ! GRITTY CAN HAZ CHEEZBURGER! at even the slightest display of anything resembling fun.
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
It would be kind of hilarious if some team beat the Canes in Carolina and then did a wacky celebration in front of their fans.
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It wasn't the whole team, but when Calgary beat Carolina a few weeks ago former Cane Elias Lindholm did it:

https://twitter.com/NHLGIFs/status/1092176678019833861
 
There are a lot of teams in Europe have rituals they do after games to thank the fans - often based around the goalies. Berlin for example have a celebration where the team lines up and skates toward the glass and does a wave at the fans in the terrace who do the wave back. The goalies also get an extra wave. But its the same after every win and seems much more natural. The Canes version of trying something different every time is a bit too forced.

But, if it actually gets the crowd engaged with the team and making more noise during the game then go for it. The atmosphere at rinks in North America is very inferior to that in Europe* so anything that helps.


*massive generalisation but certainly something I think is fairly true based on my experience over the years
 
Arn said:
There are a lot of teams in Europe have rituals they do after games to thank the fans - often based around the goalies. Berlin for example have a celebration where the team lines up and skates toward the glass and does a wave at the fans in the terrace who do the wave back. The goalies also get an extra wave. But its the same after every win and seems much more natural. The Canes version of trying something different every time is a bit too forced.

But, if it actually gets the crowd engaged with the team and making more noise during the game then go for it. The atmosphere at rinks in North America is very inferior to that in Europe* so anything that helps.


*massive generalisation but certainly something I think is fairly true based on my experience over the years
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I agree with the generalization but in my experience it seems European fans were sometimes more concerned with the singing and dancing than actually watching the game??
 
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