2019-2020 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

[Zee]

If Matthews can score 61 goals this season but still leave me wanting more, I'll take that.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Matthews has 12 goals in 16 games, is on pace for 92 points (would be a career high in points and points/game), and has a 56% CF which would also be a career high for him.

Imagine what he'll do when he starts actually playing well.

 

[Bates]

Matthews has 12 goals in 16 games, is on pace for 92 points (would be a career high in points and points/game), and has a 56% CF which would also be a career high for him.

Imagine what he'll do when he starts actually playing well.

I doubt those numbers put him in the conversation with McDavid or the League's elite. Still time though as it's early.

 

[Coco-puffs]

Fun question for the Capologists on the board:

Player on Team A, which is in full-season LTIR, is traded to Team B mid-season before the deadline (i.e. today), which does not have LTIR.

Full year cap comes off Team A. What would the cap hit read as for Team B? Does it revert to daily hit calculations, i.e. 36/182 days * annual cap hit left?

Asking for a friend*

* who wants to trade Ceci to Winnipeg

Your interpretation is correct.  Would count as daily cap hit accumulation for Team B.  Team A's finances or use of LTIR has no impact on Team B's.

Not sure though what the 36/182 is... I think there are more days left in the season at the deadline.  If you are talking about trading Ceci to WPG now, then its (182-36)/182*CapHit is what would be their total cap hit on Ceci. 

(or to make life easier.... CapDollarsUsed = daysLeft/totalDays * CapHitAAV)

 

[ZBBM]

Matthews has 12 goals in 16 games, is on pace for 92 points (would be a career high in points and points/game), and has a 56% CF which would also be a career high for him.

Imagine what he'll do when he starts actually playing well.

OK CTB, your next post is number 25000 -- make it a good one.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Matthews has 12 goals in 16 games, is on pace for 92 points (would be a career high in points and points/game), and has a 56% CF which would also be a career high for him.

Imagine what he'll do when he starts actually playing well.

OK CTB, your next post is number 25000 -- make it a good one.

Why start posting good ones now?

 

[Frank E]

Matthews has 12 goals in 16 games, is on pace for 92 points (would be a career high in points and points/game), and has a 56% CF which would also be a career high for him.

Imagine what he'll do when he starts actually playing well.

OK CTB, your next post is number 25000 -- make it a good one.

Why start posting good ones now?

Perfectly written.  Well done.

 

[Bullfrog]

So, you're basing his "eliteness" on a 16-game sample (during which he's scored 12 goals; good for 3rd in the league) where he hasn't dominated, as defined by you?

Do I really need to explain how weak that argument is?

You watch the games? Matthews has not been an elite player yet this season, that is the timeframe being discussed. Just scoring goals in itself doesn't make one an elite player. I doubt you count James Neal as elite.

Your doubt is correct.

 

[herman]

Fun question for the Capologists on the board:

Player on Team A, which is in full-season LTIR, is traded to Team B mid-season before the deadline (i.e. today), which does not have LTIR.

Full year cap comes off Team A. What would the cap hit read as for Team B? Does it revert to daily hit calculations, i.e. 36/182 days * annual cap hit left?

Asking for a friend*

* who wants to trade Ceci to Winnipeg

Your interpretation is correct.  Would count as daily cap hit accumulation for Team B.  Team A's finances or use of LTIR has no impact on Team B's.

Not sure though what the 36/182 is... I think there are more days left in the season at the deadline.  If you are talking about trading Ceci to WPG now, then its (182-36)/182*CapHit is what would be their total cap hit on Ceci. 

(or to make life easier.... CapDollarsUsed = daysLeft/totalDays * CapHitAAV)

Yes that 182-36 is what I meant.

 

[disco]

https://twitter.com/TheLeafsIMO/status/1192510396801978369

 

[Frank E]

I don't get it.

 

[Bender]

Gonna wonder aloud about what people were realistically expecting the Leafs to be able to do this offseason staring down Marleau's 3rd year, Zaitsev's contract/performance, and Marner's contract post-94-pt season, all the while needing to improve the defense with Gardiner and Hainsey coming off the books.

While the offseason was not a total clusterf**k, I think its realistic to expect:

1.  You won't overpay your 94-pt guy by at least 1M per season
2.  End up in a position where you can only have one spare player mostly because of #1
3.  End up in a position where you limit yourself to league minimum backup goalie options.  Decent goalie with 950k salary comes on waivers, nope gotta pass on him because he won't fit.

Not overpaying Ceci by 200k is also on the list of questionable decisions, but I'm not sure I see the math CtB was coming up with where that extra 200k is what is limiting us to only one spare.  With the roster as expected with Hyman back and one of Shore/Spezza/Timashov also waived/traded we are still in the 81.3M ballpark on active salaries (ie not including the LTIR guys).  An extra 200k on Ceci doesn't make room for another guy.  (It would however allow us to use a 1M backup goalie)

Who are you talking about? Jarry I guess? Domingue is not inspiring...

 

[hockeyfan1]

Not that we didn?t already know but a refresh always feels good.  Take that, Ovie!

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[disco]

https://twitter.com/FAN590/status/1192607669728825345
Great analogy.

 

[Coco-puffs]

Gonna wonder aloud about what people were realistically expecting the Leafs to be able to do this offseason staring down Marleau's 3rd year, Zaitsev's contract/performance, and Marner's contract post-94-pt season, all the while needing to improve the defense with Gardiner and Hainsey coming off the books.

While the offseason was not a total clusterf**k, I think its realistic to expect:

1.  You won't overpay your 94-pt guy by at least 1M per season
2.  End up in a position where you can only have one spare player mostly because of #1
3.  End up in a position where you limit yourself to league minimum backup goalie options.  Decent goalie with 950k salary comes on waivers, nope gotta pass on him because he won't fit.

Not overpaying Ceci by 200k is also on the list of questionable decisions, but I'm not sure I see the math CtB was coming up with where that extra 200k is what is limiting us to only one spare.  With the roster as expected with Hyman back and one of Shore/Spezza/Timashov also waived/traded we are still in the 81.3M ballpark on active salaries (ie not including the LTIR guys).  An extra 200k on Ceci doesn't make room for another guy.  (It would however allow us to use a 1M backup goalie)

Who are you talking about? Jarry I guess? Domingue is not inspiring...

I did mention waivers, but that isn't the only way to acquire backup goaltenders.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/b1rky/status/1192836523026210820

I never really paid attention to this rule as I never expected the Leafs to dabble in them after Marleau.

 

[Zee]

https://twitter.com/b1rky/status/1192836523026210820

I never really paid attention to this rule as I never expected the Leafs to dabble in them after Marleau.

His cap hit would go away if sent to the minors.  Only applies to multi-year deals on players 35+

 

[Highlander]

Whew!! I almost Spazzad out.

 

[sickbeast]

I actually think Spezza is playing decently well for a depth player.  He is playing at around a 0.5 point per game pace.  Not bad at all IMO.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Muzzin about Muzzin...

Beyond his sprinkling of offence, all those subtle defensive plays, heaviness, and puck movement, Muzzin also rates as the Leafs? top penalty killer on defence early this season in terms of expected goals against per 60 minutes.

He?s been called a leader both in the dressing room and on the ice.  He has the experience, and the consistency to do the little things that add up to the bigger picture, so to speak.  Not a perfect d-man but one that seems ?to fit? the team?s defensive needs.

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