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2020-2021 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

bustaheims said:
Lots of NHL goalies struggle in the AHL. Passes aren?t as accurate, guys aren?t in the spots they usually would be, etc. It?s harder to follow the play when you?re used to the way the game flows at the NHL level. AHL goalie stats are pretty useless as predictors for NHL success.
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Well he's stopped 35 today.. crappy shootout coming.
Kossila was the only goal scorer for the Marlies in the shootout. They lose.. Robertson apparently has a 7 game point streak going, he scored a goal and had 8 shots.
I wonder if Freddie gets another game. They play again tomorrow but obviously he won't play that one. Maybe on Tuesday? We'll see.
 
bustaheims said:
Lots of NHL goalies struggle in the AHL. Passes aren?t as accurate, guys aren?t in the spots they usually would be, etc. It?s harder to follow the play when you?re used to the way the game flows at the NHL level. AHL goalie stats are pretty useless as predictors for NHL success.
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...except Freddie hasn't had much post season success here anyway soooo...
 
Bender said:
bustaheims said:
Lots of NHL goalies struggle in the AHL. Passes aren?t as accurate, guys aren?t in the spots they usually would be, etc. It?s harder to follow the play when you?re used to the way the game flows at the NHL level. AHL goalie stats are pretty useless as predictors for NHL success.
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...except Freddie hasn't had much post season success here anyway soooo...
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The team hasn't either.... I'm not saying he's been lights out but he's not the only reason for the lack of playoff success. Fred had one bad series and that was the first one against Boston and they still went to 7 games. Take out that bad year and at least 1 of the others should have been good enough to win a series. In that 2nd series against Boston Freddie had a better SV% then Rask in 4 of the 7 games.
Last 4 years in the playoffs...
Wash...2.68GAA, 916SV%
Bos...3.76GAA, 896SV%
Bos...2.75GAA, 922SV%
CBJ...1.84GAA, 936SV%
Anyway not going to argue anything because we all know it'll be jack's net and Freddie will back him up. I hope Jack can run with it, but if he falters, I hope Freddie can be healthy and good to go.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Bender said:
bustaheims said:
Lots of NHL goalies struggle in the AHL. Passes aren?t as accurate, guys aren?t in the spots they usually would be, etc. It?s harder to follow the play when you?re used to the way the game flows at the NHL level. AHL goalie stats are pretty useless as predictors for NHL success.
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...except Freddie hasn't had much post season success here anyway soooo...
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The team hasn't either.... I'm not saying he's been lights out but he's not the only reason for the lack of playoff success. Fred had one bad series and that was the first one against Boston and they still went to 7 games. Take out that bad year and at least 1 of the others should have been good enough to win a series. In that 2nd series against Boston Freddie had a better SV% then Rask in 4 of the 7 games.
Last 4 years in the playoffs...
Wash...2.68GAA, 916SV%
Bos...3.76GAA, 896SV%
Bos...2.75GAA, 922SV%
CBJ...1.84GAA, 936SV%
Anyway not going to argue anything because we all know it'll be jack's net and Freddie will back him up. I hope Jack can run with it, but if he falters, I hope Freddie can be healthy and good to go.
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As soon as I heard Bruce Boudreau say that Freddie choked in Anaheim for him also that was it for me.
 
Bender said:
Guilt Trip said:
Bender said:
bustaheims said:
Lots of NHL goalies struggle in the AHL. Passes aren?t as accurate, guys aren?t in the spots they usually would be, etc. It?s harder to follow the play when you?re used to the way the game flows at the NHL level. AHL goalie stats are pretty useless as predictors for NHL success.
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...except Freddie hasn't had much post season success here anyway soooo...
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The team hasn't either.... I'm not saying he's been lights out but he's not the only reason for the lack of playoff success. Fred had one bad series and that was the first one against Boston and they still went to 7 games. Take out that bad year and at least 1 of the others should have been good enough to win a series. In that 2nd series against Boston Freddie had a better SV% then Rask in 4 of the 7 games.
Last 4 years in the playoffs...
Wash...2.68GAA, 916SV%
Bos...3.76GAA, 896SV%
Bos...2.75GAA, 922SV%
CBJ...1.84GAA, 936SV%
Anyway not going to argue anything because we all know it'll be jack's net and Freddie will back him up. I hope Jack can run with it, but if he falters, I hope Freddie can be healthy and good to go.
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As soon as I heard Bruce Boudreau say that Freddie choked in Anaheim for him also that was it for me.
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And when did he say that?
 
Bender said:
Guilt Trip said:
Bender said:
bustaheims said:
Lots of NHL goalies struggle in the AHL. Passes aren?t as accurate, guys aren?t in the spots they usually would be, etc. It?s harder to follow the play when you?re used to the way the game flows at the NHL level. AHL goalie stats are pretty useless as predictors for NHL success.
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...except Freddie hasn't had much post season success here anyway soooo...
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The team hasn't either.... I'm not saying he's been lights out but he's not the only reason for the lack of playoff success. Fred had one bad series and that was the first one against Boston and they still went to 7 games. Take out that bad year and at least 1 of the others should have been good enough to win a series. In that 2nd series against Boston Freddie had a better SV% then Rask in 4 of the 7 games.
Last 4 years in the playoffs...
Wash...2.68GAA, 916SV%
Bos...3.76GAA, 896SV%
Bos...2.75GAA, 922SV%
CBJ...1.84GAA, 936SV%
Anyway not going to argue anything because we all know it'll be jack's net and Freddie will back him up. I hope Jack can run with it, but if he falters, I hope Freddie can be healthy and good to go.
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As soon as I heard Bruce Boudreau say that Freddie choked in Anaheim for him also that was it for me.
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Other than his first playoff appearance with Anaheim, his numbers are also pretty good. I can't really talk about goal quality(was he still prone to letting in a back breaker every game), but he did average a .916 while in Anaheim. One season he had a .947(but only played 5 games).
 
As generally happy as I am that we'll get to see the first Toronto-Montreal playoff series in decades, it's kind of a shame the Leafs don't get rewarded for first in the division by playing Winnipeg. The Jets are in absolute free-fall, I think they're 1-8 in their last 9 games.

Weren't the Jets something like 4 points behind the Leafs a few weeks ago? The margin is now 17 points.
 
Joe S. said:
I dunno, even if the jets are in a free fall, hellebuyck still scares me.
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Def. The Leafs will get no favours in goalies regardless of who they play. Both Price and Hellebuyck are capable of stealing a series. Leafs will need to stick to the plan and the goals will hopefully come.
 
The Leafs are the best team in the division by a fair bit.  They should win the first two rounds, no matter who's in goal on the other side.  Anything less would be a big disappointment; another first-round loss would be a disaster.  It could happen, of course, but they have really shored up the defense and I think that should stand them in good stead this time around.
 
Hyman, Foligno, and Nash have all been skating recently and look pretty close to being healthy. Hopefully they're able to get into the final 2 regular season games and we can get a better idea what our playoff line-up is gonna look like. Still sticking to my prediction from a little bit ago which was:

Foligno-Matthews-Marner
Kerfoot-Tavares-Nylander
Mikheyev-Nash-Hyman
Thornton-Spezza-Simmonds

Gally and Engvall have done a good job in the last couple weeks to make this a tough decision on Keefe, and to signal to the rest of the line-up that changes could come quick if need be. And that could certainly be the case if guys like Nash/Thornton/Simmonds don't make an impact early on (or make a negative impact).
 
What about the D?

Rielly- Brodie
Muzzin - Holl
Dermott - Sandin

Until Bogosian returns and replaced probably Sandin?
 
Arn said:
What about the D?

Rielly- Brodie
Muzzin - Holl
Dermott - Sandin

Until Bogosian returns and replaced probably Sandin?
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My money would be on Sandin staying in over Dermott when Bogosian gets back, largely because of the impact he'll be bringing on the powerplay. But it seems like they'll get a few playoff games if not an entire series before having to make that call.
 
That would be my preference, but Dermott hasn't done enough to lose his spot I feel either and while I know Keefe is a bit more progressive than some of the old school, I can still see some stock being put in that loyalty.

I suppose it might just be a case Sandin has "earned" it.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Hyman, Foligno, and Nash have all been skating recently and look pretty close to being healthy. Hopefully they're able to get into the final 2 regular season games and we can get a better idea what our playoff line-up is gonna look like. Still sticking to my prediction from a little bit ago which was:

Foligno-Matthews-Marner
Kerfoot-Tavares-Nylander
Mikheyev-Nash-Hyman
Thornton-Spezza-Simmonds

Gally and Engvall have done a good job in the last couple weeks to make this a tough decision on Keefe, and to signal to the rest of the line-up that changes could come quick if need be. And that could certainly be the case if guys like Nash/Thornton/Simmonds don't make an impact early on (or make a negative impact).
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Personally I take out Mikheyev over Galchenyuk and I run the following:

Foligno-Matthews-Marner
Galchenyuk-Tavares-Nylander
Kerfoot-Nash-Hyman
Thornton-Spezza-Simmonds

Foligno can take Mikheyev's spot on the PK if needed. Plus having Hyman & Nash back is another huge PK player in the mix. With that in mind, I think Galchenyuk brings more to the table than Mikheyev.
 
With all due respect, I don't understand inserting Riley Nash into the lineup. He's yet to play a game for the Leafs and he's averaged 3.3 goals over the last 3 seasons. He seems like a great fallback plan if there are injuries, but I see him more like the Marincin of the forward group, a guy waiting in the wings.
 
I don't know that you're inserting Nash to score goals. I think you're inserting him to truly be a shutdown centre. Which allows you to free up Matthews from playing against the other team's top lines. That's my thoughts anyways.

I think Kerfoot - Nash - Hyman is a fantastic shutdown line.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
I don't know that you're inserting Nash to score goals. I think you're inserting him to truly be a shutdown centre. Which allows you to free up Matthews from playing against the other team's top lines. That's my thoughts anyways.

I think Kerfoot - Nash - Hyman is a fantastic shutdown line.
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I was hesitant about Nash at first but his defensive metrics are just so good, and I'd imagine that the Leafs acquired him hoping he could bring that over here. I'm willing to at least give him a chance.

But this also more frees up the Tavares line than the Matthews line like we saw at the start of the season.
 
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