2020-2021 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion
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Phileas Fogg
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herman said:
I sure hope not, because Brodie and an aging Simmonds is nice, but it doesn't exactly move the needle tremendously. The team is still soft as butter.
Frycer14 said:
Doesn't preclude trades. The top 6 is what it is at this point - just get Matthews to throw his body around a bit more and have Marner put on some more muscle in the offseason and that's pretty well sorted. I think maybe there's a way to replace Kerfoot at 3C with someone more defensive oriented for cheaper, but I don't think they need much more, nor can we reasonably expect much more than that imo.
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Bender said:
Yeah, I agree, the top 6 is set. It's the bottom 6 and on D that I wanted a turnover on, to give the team some sorely lacking size and snarl. One 4th line body in Simmonds won't cut it, and there's no one on D apart from Muzzin that can make life rough on the opposition.
As I said, I hope he's not done.
Guilt Trip
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He's not done.
Deebo said:
Sounds like they might still be in on Weegar? They could pick him up and then flip Holl out. Although that extra $1mil (assuming Weegar signs for $3mil) would mean we're down to just a 20 man roster. Unless they trade Kerfoot (in addition to Johnsson) and replace him with a $2mil-ish centre.
Guilt Trip
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I think he has all kinds of plans and scenarios. I wouldn't be surprised if they get Weegar or someone similar. We shall see.CarltonTheBear said:
Phileas Fogg
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Guilt Trip said:
Kerfoot and Johnsson out, and Weegar and Thornton in would work.
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https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1314726576341352448
Sure sounds like he isn't done.
Sure sounds like he isn't done.
Weegar seems like he would really solidify the top 4, and at the rumoured 3M it would be locked in at under 20M for 2 more seasons, then it would go up 3-4M for Rielly's extension.
Rielly-Weegar
Muzzin-Brodie
Tampa had to give up 1st rounders to get Goodrow and Coleman, which raised eyebrows but it made a significant impact on thier team.
If that was the cost for Weegar I think management would have to consider it. To have a cost controlled top 4 like that would be massive.
Contingent on a 4ish year deal at ~3M AAV, am I crazy to say I'd be willing to move the 2021 1st for him, if that's what it took?
He's only 26.
A pick can be replenished by moving Johnsson, maybe not a first though.
Rielly-Weegar
Muzzin-Brodie
Tampa had to give up 1st rounders to get Goodrow and Coleman, which raised eyebrows but it made a significant impact on thier team.
If that was the cost for Weegar I think management would have to consider it. To have a cost controlled top 4 like that would be massive.
Contingent on a 4ish year deal at ~3M AAV, am I crazy to say I'd be willing to move the 2021 1st for him, if that's what it took?
He's only 26.
A pick can be replenished by moving Johnsson, maybe not a first though.
herman
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Dubas met with the media after the Brodie signing: MLHS transcript
Sooo... not trading Travis Dermott yet (ever). Especially if he takes over a top-4 RD role.
Trying to land Weegar 3x3 or less seems to be a plan
Sooo... not trading Travis Dermott yet (ever). Especially if he takes over a top-4 RD role.
Trying to land Weegar 3x3 or less seems to be a plan
Guilt Trip
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Word is they can get him for cheaper then that. Who knows? He would def finish off the D though.Deebo said:
It's very weird to think that we could go from having 7-8 very viable forward candidates to protect in the expansion draft to being a team that might go the 8 skater-1 goalie route because of how many valuable defencemen we have.
One of Johnsson or Kerfoot are almost certainly going to get dealt this offseason. Next offseason the other will likely go as well to free up space for potential raises for Dermott, Mikheyev and maybe Andersen and/or Hyman as well depending on what the team does there.
So it's very likely that the only forwards we'll need to protect are Matthews, Tavares, Marner, and Nylander. That would leave Engvall as the best forward exposed (assuming he himself doesn't get dealt for further cap relief) and we'll be able to protect 4 defencemen in Rielly, Muzzin, Brodie, and one of Holl/Dermott/mystery D.
One of Johnsson or Kerfoot are almost certainly going to get dealt this offseason. Next offseason the other will likely go as well to free up space for potential raises for Dermott, Mikheyev and maybe Andersen and/or Hyman as well depending on what the team does there.
So it's very likely that the only forwards we'll need to protect are Matthews, Tavares, Marner, and Nylander. That would leave Engvall as the best forward exposed (assuming he himself doesn't get dealt for further cap relief) and we'll be able to protect 4 defencemen in Rielly, Muzzin, Brodie, and one of Holl/Dermott/mystery D.
A somewhat minor signing that I'd expect the Leafs to make soon is to bring in a 3rd goaltender. I noticed a few viable candidates for that like Anton Forsberg and Keith Kinkaid have already signed with other teams. Guys like Louis Domingue or Scott Wedgewood are a couple names that pop out as goalies with NHL experience that are looking to slot in as a 3G guy. Or maybe they even bring back Michael Hutchinson for that role.
Guilt Trip
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No way they bring back Hutch. Don't see him wanting to come back either lol. They'll need a guy for the Marlies unles they plan on running the kids. Don't see them doing that though.CarltonTheBear said:
Phileas Fogg
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Guilt Trip said:
David Ayres has nhl experience