2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

[ZBBM]

I don't know about you all, but I'm still a little worried about RHD situation.

This is the conundrum that I keep saying the Leafs are in with Liljegren. I know you yourself in the past have asked when he's finally going to get minutes, but the answer to that is never if the Leafs want to keep bringing in Bogosian type defencemen for the bottom pair. At some point the Leafs need to either give him a legitimate chance to make the team while also having a safety net in case he struggles (which I think is what they have now in Dermott) or keep signing those veteran, bottom pair, penalty killing defencemen like Bogosian which block Liljegren from playing (and if that's the case, they may as well trade him).

And to me, Liljegren doesn't really have a lot of trade value so we are either trading him to do him a favour or we let him play, realize he isn't great and get nothing for him when he goes back to the minors as a failed prospect.  I think its now or never for him with the Leafs.

They should have been test-flying this past season or even two seasons ago.  Agree with you 100%.

 

[herman]

This is sort of the only comparison that matters.

Toronto		Tampa		Boston		Florida
Matthews	Marner	Point	Kucherov	Bergeron	Marchand	Barkov	Reinhart
Tavares	Nylander	Cirelli	Stamkos	Hall	Pastrnak	Bennet	Huberdeau
Rielly	Brodie	Hedman	Sergachev	Reilly	McAvoy	Weegar	Ekblad
Muzzin	Holl	McDonagh	Cernak	Grzelcyk	Carlo	Montour	Nutivaara
Campbell		Vasilevskiy		Ullmark		Bobrovsky

 

[Frank E]

This is sort of the only comparison that matters.

Toronto		Tampa		Boston		Florida
Matthews	Marner	Point	Kucherov	Bergeron	Marchand	Barkov	Reinhart
Tavares	Nylander	Cirelli	Stamkos	Hall	Pastrnak	Bennet	Huberdeau
Rielly	Brodie	Hedman	Sergachev	Reilly	McAvoy	Weegar	Ekblad
Muzzin	Holl	McDonagh	Cernak	Grzelcyk	Carlo	Montour	Nutivaara
Campbell		Vasilevskiy		Ullmark		Bobrovsky

Thanks for that herman...I remember us talking about Weegar last summer, and he put up 36 points in 54 games this past season!

 

[herman]

Thanks for that herman...I remember us talking about Weegar last summer, and he put up 36 points in 54 games this past season!

I believe the asking price was Dermott + Johnsson

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Thanks for that herman...I remember us talking about Weegar last summer, and he put up 36 points in 54 games this past season!

I believe the asking price was Dermott + Johnsson

This was debunked by one of the computerboysTM who left before the other two did, but obviously still have connects to the team. It really never made any sense that the Leafs would have turned that down.... or that the Panthers would have wanted to deal him for that.

Although I would add if Weegar was indeed available they should have really increased their efforts to make Florida part with him. Too late for that now.

 

[herman]

Thanks for that herman...I remember us talking about Weegar last summer, and he put up 36 points in 54 games this past season!

I believe the asking price was Dermott + Johnsson

This was debunked by one of the computerboysTM who left before the other two did, but obviously still have connects to the team. It really never made any sense that the Leafs would have turned that down.... or that the Panthers would have wanted to deal him for that.

Although I would add if Weegar was indeed available they should have really increased their efforts to make Florida part with him. Too late for that now.

Did Rhys delete the tweet?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Did Rhys delete the tweet?

Looks like it, yeah. My guess is that he remembered (or was reminded) that he's not really supposed to be talking about things like that online.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/mostlyleafies/status/1423092919981027330
Would be very interested in reuniting Matthews-Nylander if there is a shutdown Kampf line.

 

[Bender]

https://twitter.com/domluszczyszyn/status/1423286966477545472?s=19

Very interesting. Very tough to get better while cutting costs.

 

[Guilt Trip]

https://twitter.com/domluszczyszyn/status/1423286966477545472?s=19

Very interesting. Very tough to get better while cutting costs.

I think the Leafs are a better team even if 1 line is a little weaker but it's debatable which one is.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/domluszczyszyn/status/1423286966477545472

Very interesting. Very tough to get better while cutting costs.

The Leafs are probably closer to the 0 GSVA axis than where they show at the moment, due to Mrazek and Bunting's small sample excellence. Dropping 5M (1LW + 1G to boot) and still treading water is still a positive, considering there was also an expansion draft pushing everyone a bit towards the loss side.

This chart also only shows the differential (cool), but doesn't show the actual team level they are shifting from.

 

[herman]

https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2021/08/05/mlhs-podcast-episode-25/
This is the podcast I was waiting for (a good deal of love for Rasmus)

 

[ZBBM]

https://twitter.com/domluszczyszyn/status/1423286966477545472?s=19

Very interesting. Very tough to get better while cutting costs.

Whenever they do these kind of charts they need to tell us which quadrants are good and which aren't.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Whenever they do these kind of charts they need to tell us which quadrants are good and which aren't.

Got worse, added salary                    Got better, added salary


Got worse, lost salary                        Got better, lost salary

 

[herman]

Whenever they do these kind of charts they need to tell us which quadrants are good and which aren't.

Got worse, added salary                    Got better, added salary


Got worse, lost salary                        Got better, lost salary

Let me translate further:
HAHA SUCKERS                  This is Normal


This is Normal                        Nicely Done

 

[ZBBM]

Whenever they do these kind of charts they need to tell us which quadrants are good and which aren't.

Got worse, added salary                    Got better, added salary


Got worse, lost salary                        Got better, lost salary

Let me translate further:
HAHA SUCKERS                  This is Normal


This is Normal                        Nicely Done

;D  Thanks you guys.

 

[Frank E]

https://editorinleaf.com/2021/08/06/toronto-maple-leafs-nylander-snubbed/

Guess he sucks again.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I'm genuinely not sure there's a Leafs website worse than EIL.

 

[herman]

I'm genuinely not sure there's a Leafs website worse than EIL.

Does LeafsHub still have a site?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I'm genuinely not sure there's a Leafs website worse than EIL.

Does LeafsHub still have a site?

I actually don't think they do.