louisstamos
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Frank E said:
Eep. With the emergence of Holmberg and the arrival of Dewar, Kampf was the guy I was earmarking for trade this summer. :/
2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion
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Eep. With the emergence of Holmberg and the arrival of Dewar, Kampf was the guy I was earmarking for trade this summer. :/
louisstamos said:
It's a brutal contract with the high annual signing bonus for buyout
https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/david-kampf
It would cost the team more to buy Kampf out and replace him with a NHL player playing for the NHL minimum
He'll be easiest to move in the final year of his deal after the signing bonus is paid.
Yeah, the Kampf deal was a head-scratcher from the start. Doesn't help that his season hasn't exactly met the standards he set in the previous two. But as a 4th line centre he ended up getting 1) higher term than his 4C peers, 2) higher AAV than his 4C peers, 3) more no trade protection than his 4C peers, 4) more buyout protection than his 4C peers. One or two of those things maybe wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, but to go 4 for 4 is just a masterclass performance from his agent.
herman said:
Signing Webber on Sunday and then alternating between papering Robertson and Knies down to the Marlies for each of the last 2 games wouldn't really be any issue whatsoever to create the cap space.
The only potential problem would be that (I believe) it would prevent the Leafs from activating Jarnkrok off LTIR to get him into the final regular season game if he's cleared for that. But then again considering he still hasn't participated in a regular practice session with the team it's quite possible he won't even be cleared for that by then.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
It's entirely possible, probably even likely, that he wouldn't actually play a game. He definitely wouldn't be playing playoff games like Knies did barring something insane happening to 4-5 other defencemen. Probably just about burning a year of his ELC to get him to actually sign.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Who knows. My gut instinct at first was that there almost certainly wasn't anything here. But since then James Mirtle has said a couple of times that he's heard people say there's a good chance he actually plays NHL games at some point next season and presumably those are people who have watched him closely.
To Toronto's credit they've been reasonably successful when it comes to college players in this position. Either in acquiring guys prior to them becoming free agents (like Hyman) or signing them when they do (Moore,
That's of course the optimistic take. The pessimistic one would reasonably point out his zero goals and 15 assists through 4 years of college hockey make it incredibly difficult to see a NHL future and any talk about him is more simply because he's 6'7" tall.
CarltonTheBear said:
As I recall, there were not a lot of good free agent centers to be had.
When they lost Ryan O'Reilly to the Preds, I suspect a little panic set in.
They lost Schenn too and were on the outside looking in at what few decent dmen there were signing elsewhere.
Kampf's agent would know as well as anyone the pickle they were in.
Leafs blinked first.
This year's UFA crop looks roughly similar. I haven't checked the wings but good centers, dmen & goalies are in limited supply that will get more sparse as July 1 approaches and teams sign their UFAs.
bustaheims
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cw said:
Kampf signed before free agency opened, so they technically hadn?t lost anyone yet. They knew at that point ROR wasn?t likely coming back, but the sense was Schenn might - not that I think he played into the thinking around Kampf all that much.
Guilt Trip
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Another option lol...Murray expected to start tonight for the Marlies.
https://twitter.com/LeafsPR/status/1779144051263963332
https://twitter.com/LeafsPR/status/1779144051263963332
herman
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Webber is a rare blend of massive size/reach with good skating mobility. Coupled with defensive instincts and a pride in that side of the game, I?d say that?s the appropriate type of defenseman to take a bet on in bottom pair NHL minutes. It?s the offensive D-men that I?d rather matriculate through the minors so they become true engines of the structure. Disrupters are easier to integrate and benefit from experiencing the predictability and game speed of the NHL, rather than AHL sloppiness.
bustaheims said:
Media did report Schenn was going to free agency before it opened - as they did O'Reilly.
Schenn's deal was announced 2 mins after free agency started. O'Reilly's a few minutes after that.
Mid June reports were that the two parties were way off in term and dollars which Schenn's deal with Nashville underscores.
It is kind of smelly how quickly those Nashville deals got done and announced.
The Leafs had to have known where they stood with both well before that - they'd been trying to re-sign them for more than a month. Schenn had to have had some concrete idea of what the market would offer to announce a deal 2 mins into free agency.
So the Kampf signing was preemptive with the knowledge O'Rielly & Schenn were gone- to avoid the risk of losing him as well.
By 5pm July 1, the Leafs has arrived at plan Z - risky signing of Klingberg - as no quality RH Dmen were left.
Guilt Trip
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Problem is game timing will be way off but you never know.cw said:
CarltonTheBear said:
That's what I thought.
They do not have a lot of draft picks as we all know.
They have to lasso whatever they can to try and deliver some economic youth to the roster to help their cap issues.
I hope they continue to be aggressive with young UFAs that way.
Their PK has been pretty bad. Maybe this dman can help in that role as a 6th dman in a year or two. Or if the UFA market can't deliver, maybe go with 7 dmen to help solve that problem.