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2024-25 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

L K said:
This is the stuff that makes the salary cap stupid. Playing a man short because of injuries is dumb.
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I get the rule in theory, the cap's the cap and teams that don't leave as much room for possible injuries as other teams shouldn't really just get off scot-free for that. Maybe there should be a provision though that if teams don't go the "play a man short" route they could instead take a cap penalty in the next season for whatever the daily hit of the player they called up is.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I get the rule in theory, the cap's the cap and teams that don't leave as much room for possible injuries as other teams shouldn't really just get off scot-free for that. Maybe there should be a provision though that if teams don't go the "play a man short" route they could instead take a cap penalty in the next season for whatever the daily hit of the player they called up is.
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Or just allow teams to bring up someone whose AAV is below a certain threshold (like $1M) before they have to play a man short. Take the basic rule they have now and eliminate the need to play a game down a man, but those teams have to place the player that put them below the limit on to the IR. It's not like anyone teams have stashed in the minors is likely to make a huge impact and they end up losing the guy they wanted on their roster for at least a week.

Or just allow teams to use LTIR and include playoff games/games at the beginning of the next season as part of the count.
 
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Being that OEL is sitting out, they're obviously not faking it. For example, playing 11 forwards would make much more sense if they were.

But here's a question for the capologists/CBA experts: Does this open the gates for more emergency callups or do they have to play a man short for each one?
 
bustaheims said:
Or just allow teams to bring up someone whose AAV is below a certain threshold (like $1M) before they have to play a man short. Take the basic rule they have now and eliminate the need to play a game down a man
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I think having basically zero repercussions to essentially going over the cap is going to lead to teams exploiting it too often. It would also eliminate a big reason teams carry 23 players on a roster which the PA would probably oppose. The Leafs chose to go through the post-deadline season with only enough cap space to carry a 22 player roster knowing full well that minor injuries were going to come up like this. Another team may have had that option too but specifically chose to keep extra room for injuries. Having to carry forward a small cap penalty, which is already a thing with performance bonuses at times, is probably best compromise.

bustaheims said:
Or just allow teams to use LTIR and include playoff games/games at the beginning of the next season as part of the count.
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Yeah I'm surprised once you're down to 9 games remaining LTIR is off the table. That should probably be looked at. But it wouldn't really help us here as none of McCabe, Kampf, or OEL are expected to be out long-term.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Would have really liked to have seen Laughton get this opportunity to play on L2 over Jarnkrok. I get that Laughton isn't exactly doing himself much favours but his usage has really been odd.
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Jarnkrok's playoff offense is scary bad. I don't know why.
Laughton's style makes more sense to me on that line.

I'm not clear why they keep playing Domi at center
There are a number of things they do with this team that don't make a lot of sense to me.
 
bustaheims said:
Or just allow teams to bring up someone whose AAV is below a certain threshold (like $1M) before they have to play a man short. Take the basic rule they have now and eliminate the need to play a game down a man, but those teams have to place the player that put them below the limit on to the IR. It's not like anyone teams have stashed in the minors is likely to make a huge impact and they end up losing the guy they wanted on their roster for at least a week.

Or just allow teams to use LTIR and include playoff games/games at the beginning of the next season as part of the count.
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Aw come on...what are you??? Logical? Want what's best for the game and fans watching? Geez....
 
ZBBM said:
Anybody with an Athletic subscription read this?

www.nytimes.com

How do you fix an NHL arena where the fans don’t cheer? ‘Play in the sandbox’

A tepid game atmosphere has become typical in Toronto and other big hockey cities. What can these teams learn from non-traditional markets?
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

I can't get behind the paywall but it appears the story leads with the SBA experience?
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There are www.<>.dot com websites out there that allow you to <removepaywall> from articles like this.
 
It leads with the Columbus game and Reaves fighting early then Matthew’s saying he’d have liked more energy in the crowd from the fight. I remember us discussing it at the time and debating if it was lack of energy cos it was a meaningless fight.

Then it also says a Wednesday game in January in SBA isn’t renowned for a raucous atmosphere.

Goes on to talk about other arenas and corporate seats etc.

From my experience I would say it’s not an issue unique to SBA or even an issue unique to hockey or the NHL.
 
bustaheims said:
Or just allow teams to bring up someone whose AAV is below a certain threshold (like $1M) before they have to play a man short. Take the basic rule they have now and eliminate the need to play a game down a man, but those teams have to place the player that put them below the limit on to the IR. It's not like anyone teams have stashed in the minors is likely to make a huge impact and they end up losing the guy they wanted on their roster for at least a week.

Or just allow teams to use LTIR and include playoff games/games at the beginning of the next season as part of the count.
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This seems like a logical idea. There is a threshold where you can send a player to the minors and their cap hit doesn't count against the cap. Have it go the other way as well, injury dependent of course.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Would have really liked to have seen Laughton get this opportunity to play on L2 over Jarnkrok. I get that Laughton isn't exactly doing himself much favours but his usage has really been odd.
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Couldn't agree more. I think he's been pretty good lately but would like to see him either on L2 or at 3C with 74 and 89 for a spin around the block.
 
Arn said:
It leads with the Columbus game and Reaves fighting early then Matthew’s saying he’d have liked more energy in the crowd from the fight. I remember us discussing it at the time and debating if it was lack of energy cos it was a meaningless fight.

Then it also says a Wednesday game in January in SBA isn’t renowned for a raucous atmosphere.

Goes on to talk about other arenas and corporate seats etc.

From my experience I would say it’s not an issue unique to SBA or even an issue unique to hockey or the NHL.
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Thanks Arn, and CB.
 
I think an entirely reasonable principle for a professional league would be that you shouldn't let a completely artificial creation like a salary cap damage the on-ice entertainment you are asking people to shell out a lot of money for. However you do that, do it.
 
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