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Bryzgalov bought out.

princedpw said:
Corn Flake said:
Boy I won't ever get tired of the Flyers gong show.  So entertaining and bizarre.

I wonder what the total $$ is for ridiculous post-cap long-term deals signed by Philli that are either no longer on their team, on LTIR or now bought out.

Carter, Richards, Pronger, Hatcher(?), Bryz, Briere, Rathje.. etc?

I wouldn't laugh at the Flyers.  In fact I'm rather jealous.  They have made all of those deals, but they have had negligeable impact in terms of on-ice performance/cap constraints.  In contrast, the Leafs have $2 million in empty cap space due to Tucker and Armstong this year.  That $2million could be used to improve our team  in a variety of ways this coming year (eg: our 3rd line could have a $3.5 million guy like Mac vs. a 1.5 million guy).  The Flyers have never had $2 million in dead cap space.  Arg!  They've gotten off scott free.

Carter, Richards -- beneficial.  It made those assets valuable because they were signed for a long time and the Flyers got a great deal of assets back for them.  (You can argue they shouldn't have made the trade but the fact that the contracts were long ensured they could trade those guys for as good a value as they could get).

Pronger -- never felt the cap hit due to LTIR (except perhaps minimal constraints due to tagging room over the summer, but I don't think that actually prevented any deal from happening did it).  The injury saved them from him retiring.

Hatcher, Rathje -- never felt the cap hit

Briere -- beneficial -- they had him at a lower cap hit than it would have been otherwise and instead of paying the price in his declining years, they get to junk him for free

Bryz -- a bad financial signing, but they weren't hurt by it (in terms of cap space)

I wish the Leafs had been able to use their financial might this effectively but Burke never wanted to play the system.

Gotta agree with you there. From a fan's perspective, I could give a rats a$$ how much these players are getting paid in terms of real dollars. The 2 M in dead cap space along with the other 500K absorbed in the bernier deal translates into a pretty good player that could be on the team.

That's why I hope there is some truth to some of these rumors that bad contract could be traded (or bought) by the Leafs (and subsequently bought out) i.e Dipietro along with on ice assets for next to nothing going the other way. Makes no financial sense of course...so i am doubtful that management would even go for it even if such a deal were actually available
 
Peter D. said:
I'm going to make a prediction that he ends back in Phoenix.  A cheaper deal like $6 million over two years.

They won't be re-signing Smith, and Bryzgalov enjoyed his most success there.

He's rumoured to have burned a lot of bridges on his way out, so, I'd be a little surprised to see him end up back there.
 
princedpw said:
Corn Flake said:
Boy I won't ever get tired of the Flyers gong show.  So entertaining and bizarre.

I wonder what the total $$ is for ridiculous post-cap long-term deals signed by Philli that are either no longer on their team, on LTIR or now bought out.

Carter, Richards, Pronger, Hatcher(?), Bryz, Briere, Rathje.. etc?

I wouldn't laugh at the Flyers.  In fact I'm rather jealous.  They have made all of those deals, but they have had negligeable impact in terms of on-ice performance/cap constraints.  In contrast, the Leafs have $2 million in empty cap space due to Tucker and Armstong this year.  That $2million could be used to improve our team  in a variety of ways this coming year (eg: our 3rd line could have a $3.5 million guy like Mac vs. a 1.5 million guy).  The Flyers have never had $2 million in dead cap space.  Arg!  They've gotten off scott free.

Carter, Richards -- beneficial.  It made those assets valuable because they were signed for a long time and the Flyers got a great deal of assets back for them.  (You can argue they shouldn't have made the trade but the fact that the contracts were long ensured they could trade those guys for as good a value as they could get).

Pronger -- never felt the cap hit due to LTIR (except perhaps minimal constraints due to tagging room over the summer, but I don't think that actually prevented any deal from happening did it).  The injury saved them from him retiring.

Hatcher, Rathje -- never felt the cap hit

Briere -- beneficial -- they had him at a lower cap hit than it would have been otherwise and instead of paying the price in his declining years, they get to junk him for free

Bryz -- a bad financial signing, but they weren't hurt by it (in terms of cap space)

I wish the Leafs had been able to use their financial might this effectively but Burke never wanted to play the system.
Jealous?

Throwing expensive contracts at players is no way to build a winner. We've seen it time and time again in Philly and it hasn't worked. Imagine how much money Ed Snider could have saved if they had competent forward-thinking management? The Flyers finished 10th last season as a result of Holmgren bumbling along. Not exactly something I'd be jealous of.
 
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