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Nik said:
herman said:
Basically just avoid the provincial layer, which was supposed to be a central system for convenience but they're struggling.

https://vaccinehunters.ca or go through your local public health unit's system.
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The other thing, and this is more of a hunch than anything as I can't prove it, but in following the vaccine hunters on twitter I've seen roughly 100x more announcements for vaccines(sometimes lots and lots available) in the areas surrounding Toronto than I have for the city proper(and I've seen virtually none for what a snob like me considers downtown Toronto).

Despite that, it's not like the people I know are having the easiest time getting vaccinated in the city so I can't help but feel as though someone has maybe misjudged demand throughout the GTA and sent more than is needed to the 905.

But again, could just be confirmation bias there.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-covid-19-vaccination-postal-code-hot-spots-1.5983155
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herman said:
Nik said:
herman said:
Basically just avoid the provincial layer, which was supposed to be a central system for convenience but they're struggling.

https://vaccinehunters.ca or go through your local public health unit's system.
Click to expand...

The other thing, and this is more of a hunch than anything as I can't prove it, but in following the vaccine hunters on twitter I've seen roughly 100x more announcements for vaccines(sometimes lots and lots available) in the areas surrounding Toronto than I have for the city proper(and I've seen virtually none for what a snob like me considers downtown Toronto).

Despite that, it's not like the people I know are having the easiest time getting vaccinated in the city so I can't help but feel as though someone has maybe misjudged demand throughout the GTA and sent more than is needed to the 905.

But again, could just be confirmation bias there.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-covid-19-vaccination-postal-code-hot-spots-1.5983155
sus
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Yeah, I get that but now that Vaccines aren't quite as scarce as they used to be it still kind of feels like they've been wrong about raw numbers needed in various areas.
 
herman said:
Nik said:
herman said:
Basically just avoid the provincial layer, which was supposed to be a central system for convenience but they're struggling.

https://vaccinehunters.ca or go through your local public health unit's system.
Click to expand...

The other thing, and this is more of a hunch than anything as I can't prove it, but in following the vaccine hunters on twitter I've seen roughly 100x more announcements for vaccines(sometimes lots and lots available) in the areas surrounding Toronto than I have for the city proper(and I've seen virtually none for what a snob like me considers downtown Toronto).

Despite that, it's not like the people I know are having the easiest time getting vaccinated in the city so I can't help but feel as though someone has maybe misjudged demand throughout the GTA and sent more than is needed to the 905.

But again, could just be confirmation bias there.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-covid-19-vaccination-postal-code-hot-spots-1.5983155
sus
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That was written in early April, FYI.
 
Just indicates where the priorities are, fundamentally, don't it? i.e. public health is not truly at the top of the list
 
Sorry to hear about the problems back home (I am from Ontario). 
In BC it been very well managed, my son had a booking for May 26 but was leaving to Jasper for a job on May 22nd, so we went down to the community centre and explained the situation on May18.  The nurse said they usually have 3 or 4 doses left at the end of the day from people who don't show up for their appointment.  Within an hour we received a phone call saying to get him in asap. He was done the same day, just hours later.  Really, really nice folks.
 
To be clear, it's not a huge problem. Ontario has announcements for walk-ins too and within a couple days of my mother being eligible for her second shot I had an appointment for her within the city by the end of the week. If people don't mind driving up to Woodbridge or Scarborough, things go pretty smooth.

It just seems badly set up by the province.
 
The biggest problem with the vaccination infrastructure was the lack of proper planning and organziation.  We all knew this was coming but the province didn't get to work on designing the portals until this year.

It was only two weeks ago that I started getting notifications that my patients have received their vaccine so I had previously been relying on check in calls and patients knowing enough to notify me so I don't send reminder calls to get their vaccine.  That's a system that should have been ready to go on Day 1.
 
They opened up 2nd doses to all adults who had a first mRNA dose on May 9th or earlier in Halton, Peel, Porcupine, Toronto, Waterloo, Wellington-Dufferin-Guelph and York starting Monday.
 
Deebo said:
They opened up 2nd doses to all adults who had a first mRNA dose on May 9th or earlier in Halton, Peel, Porcupine, Toronto, Waterloo, Wellington-Dufferin-Guelph and York starting Monday.
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Hmm...so, I live in Toronto, but got my first dose in April in Peel at the International Centre.  Does that mean I'll be able to rebook the 2nd dose this Monday?  Or should I wait to be contacted?
 
louisstamos said:
Deebo said:
They opened up 2nd doses to all adults who had a first mRNA dose on May 9th or earlier in Halton, Peel, Porcupine, Toronto, Waterloo, Wellington-Dufferin-Guelph and York starting Monday.
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Hmm...so, I live in Toronto, but got my first dose in April in Peel at the International Centre.  Does that mean I'll be able to rebook the 2nd dose this Monday?  Or should I wait to be contacted?
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It's up to you to rebook.  You don't have to wait for a call.
 
I don't have a 2nd dose currently booked. I got my first at that massive pop up clinic they had at the East York Town Centre on May 16th and they weren't booking 2nd doses at that point.

I figure within the next few weeks, there will be pop-ups that are open to me.
 
You don't love the flattening of the 1st vaccine rate. Ideally we want 85-90% of the population vaccinated at least and I'm worried we have enough of these anti vaccine nutjobs to threaten us getting to a place where we can get to herd immunity.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
2nd doses starting to take over.
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Here is how 2nd vs 1st have gone the last few weeks

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Nik said:
You don't love the flattening of the 1st vaccine rate. Ideally we want 85-90% of the population vaccinated at least and I'm worried we have enough of these anti vaccine nutjobs to threaten us getting to a place where we can get to herd immunity.
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I think we'll get to 80-85% but it'll be a bit of a slog to get there. I believe we're almost at 75% of eligible adults so that's something.
 
Nik said:
You don't love the flattening of the 1st vaccine rate. Ideally we want 85-90% of the population vaccinated at least and I'm worried we have enough of these anti vaccine nutjobs to threaten us getting to a place where we can get to herd immunity.
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Some of it is definitely competition for vaccine slots but I do think that the difficulty we are going to get going from mid 70s to try and get to 85-90% is being underrated.  There is a big chunk of that crowd that are in the "I just need to see more data" crowd.  That's just code word for I'm not going to get it.
 
L K said:
Nik said:
You don't love the flattening of the 1st vaccine rate. Ideally we want 85-90% of the population vaccinated at least and I'm worried we have enough of these anti vaccine nutjobs to threaten us getting to a place where we can get to herd immunity.
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Some of it is definitely competition for vaccine slots but I do think that the difficulty we are going to get going from mid 70s to try and get to 85-90% is being underrated.  There is a big chunk of that crowd that are in the "I just need to see more data" crowd.  That's just code word for I'm not going to get it.
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How much more data do you need when you've got Israel? I mean seriously!
 
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