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Dave Bolland

Potvin29 said:
RedLeaf said:
Potvin29 said:
RedLeaf said:
Potvin29 said:
RedLeaf said:
Bolland has a ton of leadership ability.

How do you know this?

How don't you know this?

Good lord.

Ask a stupid question, and, well, you know...

Make a stupid, baseless assertion and, well, you know...

It's a subjective 'assertion'. I see leadership abilities in Bolland. If you don't than that's fine by me. That's your prerogative, but 'how do I know this'? is just a stupid question. Come on....you can do better than that.
 
Carlyle on Bolland:

?Bolland [has] been everything we?ve asked, because he?s a player you can move up and down in the lineup and he plays and practises at a very high pace.

?It?s not that he is immune to making mistakes. He makes mistakes as we all do. But it?s not a mistake through laziness ever. He may read the situation wrong, but it?s never laziness and he?s a model for our younger players. There?s a huge learning curve for a lot of young players in the league and on our team; David Bolland would be a guy that they should hang onto.?

I was looking for more quotes from the his teammates on his return that addressed his leadership abilities that I remember reading/hearing but I can't find them.
 
RedLeaf said:
It's a subjective 'assertion'. I see leadership abilities in Bolland. If you don't than that's fine by me. That's your prerogative, but 'how do I know this'? is just a stupid question. Come on....you can do better than that.

And an 'assertion' can either be fact or belief.  It wasn't obvious in your comment which way you were going.  Thus, questioning what evidence you have under the assumption you're stating it as a fact is not a stupid question.  A misunderstanding, sure, but not a stupid question.
 
Deebo said:
Carlyle on Bolland:

?Bolland [has] been everything we?ve asked, because he?s a player you can move up and down in the lineup and he plays and practises at a very high pace.

?It?s not that he is immune to making mistakes. He makes mistakes as we all do. But it?s not a mistake through laziness ever. He may read the situation wrong, but it?s never laziness and he?s a model for our younger players. There?s a huge learning curve for a lot of young players in the league and on our team; David Bolland would be a guy that they should hang onto.?

I was looking for more quotes from the his teammates on his return that addressed his leadership abilities that I remember reading/hearing but I can't find them.

I can buy that.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
He has so much leadership ability that a team that has won the Cup 2 out of the last 4 years thought Brian Bickell was more valuable to them.

That's Brian "3 assists in 56 games this season" Bickell.

Maybe the Blackhawks made a mistake?
 
Deebo said:
Carlyle on Bolland:

?Bolland [has] been everything we?ve asked, because he?s a player you can move up and down in the lineup and he plays and practises at a very high pace.

?It?s not that he is immune to making mistakes. He makes mistakes as we all do. But it?s not a mistake through laziness ever. He may read the situation wrong, but it?s never laziness and he?s a model for our younger players. There?s a huge learning curve for a lot of young players in the league and on our team; David Bolland would be a guy that they should hang onto.?

I was looking for more quotes from the his teammates on his return that addressed his leadership abilities that I remember reading/hearing but I can't find them.

Honestly, though, those quotes don't say a thing about leadership. They show how Carlyle thinks Bolland has some attributes that younger players should emulate - which may very well be true - but, that's really the extent of it.
 
Deebo said:
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
He has so much leadership ability that a team that has won the Cup 2 out of the last 4 years thought Brian Bickell was more valuable to them.

That's Brian "3 assists in 56 games this season" Bickell.

Maybe the Blackhawks made a mistake?

Maybe they did, but, if Bolland has the level of leadership that some here and in the media have attributed to him, that's not a decision they would have made. Keeping Bickell over Bolland looks like a mistake, but, it's a mistake due more to performance than any off ice qualities.
 
bustaheims said:
Deebo said:
Carlyle on Bolland:

?Bolland [has] been everything we?ve asked, because he?s a player you can move up and down in the lineup and he plays and practises at a very high pace.

?It?s not that he is immune to making mistakes. He makes mistakes as we all do. But it?s not a mistake through laziness ever. He may read the situation wrong, but it?s never laziness and he?s a model for our younger players. There?s a huge learning curve for a lot of young players in the league and on our team; David Bolland would be a guy that they should hang onto.?

I was looking for more quotes from the his teammates on his return that addressed his leadership abilities that I remember reading/hearing but I can't find them.

Honestly, though, those quotes don't say a thing about leadership. They show how Carlyle thinks Bolland has some attributes that younger players should emulate - which may very well be true - but, that's really the extent of it.

That's the quote I could find but I definitely remember more. The coach says he is a model for younger players, brings a high work ethic, leads by example, and his team mates talk about his leadership abilities.
 
Bolland and Phaneuf in a cage match at center ice at the ScotiaTirePlace following the final game this Saturday.  The winner gets the C and, in Bolland's case, a new gig; the loser is banished to Uzbekistan.
 
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bustaheims said:
Deebo said:
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
He has so much leadership ability that a team that has won the Cup 2 out of the last 4 years thought Brian Bickell was more valuable to them.

That's Brian "3 assists in 56 games this season" Bickell.

Maybe the Blackhawks made a mistake?

Maybe they did, but, if Bolland has the level of leadership that some here and in the media have attributed to him, that's not a decision they would have made. Keeping Bickell over Bolland looks like a mistake, but, it's a mistake due more to performance than any off ice qualities.

This is pure speculation, there are plenty of other explanations as to why they would have elected to trade Bolland even if they thought he was a strong leader.

Toews, Kieth, Hossa, Seabrook and Sharp is already quite a strong leadership group, they could have opted to keep Bickell due to his age/signability/position or because of Bolland's injury history. Or maybe they preferred the the return they got for Bolland.
 
Deebo said:
bustaheims said:
Deebo said:
Carlyle on Bolland:

?Bolland [has] been everything we?ve asked, because he?s a player you can move up and down in the lineup and he plays and practises at a very high pace.

?It?s not that he is immune to making mistakes. He makes mistakes as we all do. But it?s not a mistake through laziness ever. He may read the situation wrong, but it?s never laziness and he?s a model for our younger players. There?s a huge learning curve for a lot of young players in the league and on our team; David Bolland would be a guy that they should hang onto.?

I was looking for more quotes from the his teammates on his return that addressed his leadership abilities that I remember reading/hearing but I can't find them.

Honestly, though, those quotes don't say a thing about leadership. They show how Carlyle thinks Bolland has some attributes that younger players should emulate - which may very well be true - but, that's really the extent of it.

That's the quote I could find but I definitely remember more. The coach says he is a model for younger players, brings a high work ethic, leads by example, and his team mates talk about his leadership abilities.

Yeah. These are all pretty obvious things here people. But I'm sure a few here would love to debate them all. I get it. It's mud slinging time. People are upset. Debate away.
 
bustaheims said:
Deebo said:
Carlyle on Bolland:

?Bolland [has] been everything we?ve asked, because he?s a player you can move up and down in the lineup and he plays and practises at a very high pace.

?It?s not that he is immune to making mistakes. He makes mistakes as we all do. But it?s not a mistake through laziness ever. He may read the situation wrong, but it?s never laziness and he?s a model for our younger players. There?s a huge learning curve for a lot of young players in the league and on our team; David Bolland would be a guy that they should hang onto.?

I was looking for more quotes from the his teammates on his return that addressed his leadership abilities that I remember reading/hearing but I can't find them.

Honestly, though, those quotes don't say a thing about leadership. They show how Carlyle thinks Bolland has some attributes that younger players should emulate - which may very well be true - but, that's really the extent of it.

LOL.
 
Deebo said:
That's the quote I could find but I definitely remember more. The coach says he is a model for younger players, brings a high work ethic, leads by example, and his team mates talk about his leadership abilities.

Carlyle has said the same stuff about David Clarkson, but it doesn't change the fact that he's been terrible this season.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Deebo said:
That's the quote I could find but I definitely remember more. The coach says he is a model for younger players, brings a high work ethic, leads by example, and his team mates talk about his leadership abilities.

Carlyle has said the same stuff about David Clarkson, but it doesn't change the fact that he's been terrible this season.

I get that laziness isn't something that should be lauded in any way, but hard mistakes isn't good enough in professional sports IMO.  And I'm not exactly sure why going off on a line-change when the puck is being rushed into your zone is a consequence of mis-reading a play.  That seems like a pretty basic assessment of the play is required to realize that on a long chance that you shouldn't put your team at a disadvantage like that.
 
bakeapples said:
L K said:
Dave Bolland is probably the only person responsible for the Blackhawks championships.  Notice how they haven't won a Cup since he left?

The Curse of the Bollando

It's gonna be four quarters in a few weeks since they last won a cup.
 
I like Bolland but he will want a Clarkson style contract. I would rather pay Holland a lot less and get another good D-Man in the summer.  Also resign Koollemon and bring back Komrade Komarov.
 

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