David Clarkson
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Britishbulldog
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princedpw said:
I was thinking that retain 15% ($0.788 MIL) after July 2nd where he has received his signing bonus already and trade for Edmonton's 2nd pick 2015. Nasty signing bonuses in 15/16, 16/17 and 17/18.
SEASON AHL SALARY NHL SALARY P. S. BONUS AAV CAP HIT
2013-14 $4,500,000 $4,500,000 $0 $3,500,000 $5,250,000 $5,250,000
2014-15 $4,750,000 $4,750,000 $0 $3,750,000 $5,250,000 $5,250,000
2015-16 $5,500,000 $5,500,000 $0 $4,500,000 $5,250,000 $5,250,000
2016-17 $7,000,000 $7,000,000 $0 $5,000,000 $5,250,000 $5,250,000
2017-18 $7,000,000 $7,000,000 $0 $5,000,000 $5,250,000 $5,250,000
2018-19 $4,750,000 $4,750,000 $0 $3,750,000 $5,250,000 $5,250,000
2019-20 $3,250,000 $3,250,000 $0 $2,250,000 $5,250,000 $5,250,000
Champ Kind
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So I've been giving some more thought to my earlier post, specifically to the question, "What other UFAs who have signed big dollar, big term deals, have struggled as badly as Clarkson has this year?". And then the follow-up, "Were any of them able to recover and regain (or exceed) their previous form?".
My immediate reaction was to jump to the Scott Gomez, Bobby Holik, Chris Drury (notice a trend here?), Daniel Briere, Ryan Malone, and Dustin Penners of the world. Except that, these guys actually played pretty well early in their respective contracts and only really faded away as time (and age and pancake consumption) went on.
So while my analysis is no-where near exhaustive, I did rack my brain as well as a few pages of google searches to come up with a list of players who, after signing big UFA deals, struggled as badly as Clarkson has. To my continued chagrin, none of them recovered. This is my list:
- Mike Komisarek: injured, inconsistent, and distracted in his first year, his subsequent play got worse
- Ville Leino: $4.5 / cap hit; his first year with Buffalo, he played 72 games, 8 goals and 17 assists. His line this year is 50 games - 0 goals - 12 assists.
Beyond that for position players, I'm tapped. Again, we can point to Martin Havlat and Brian Campbell and Marion Gaborik and the like as free agent busts, but the reality is that while there may not have been great value in these deals, these players did post decent production early on in their deals. The real glaring issues only crept up later, as injuries and age took over. There haven't been many players who signed big UFA deals that have performed so poorly as Clarkson has this year.
Goalies are a bit different, and because it's sort of an apples to oranges thing, I'm leaving them out here. Though had I included them Cristobal Huet and Ilya Bryzgalov would have made the list.
So, all this to say that while I continue to hold out hope that Clarkson returns to form, the few precedents that I found don't exactly fill one with optimism.
My immediate reaction was to jump to the Scott Gomez, Bobby Holik, Chris Drury (notice a trend here?), Daniel Briere, Ryan Malone, and Dustin Penners of the world. Except that, these guys actually played pretty well early in their respective contracts and only really faded away as time (and age and pancake consumption) went on.
So while my analysis is no-where near exhaustive, I did rack my brain as well as a few pages of google searches to come up with a list of players who, after signing big UFA deals, struggled as badly as Clarkson has. To my continued chagrin, none of them recovered. This is my list:
- Mike Komisarek: injured, inconsistent, and distracted in his first year, his subsequent play got worse
- Ville Leino: $4.5 / cap hit; his first year with Buffalo, he played 72 games, 8 goals and 17 assists. His line this year is 50 games - 0 goals - 12 assists.
Beyond that for position players, I'm tapped. Again, we can point to Martin Havlat and Brian Campbell and Marion Gaborik and the like as free agent busts, but the reality is that while there may not have been great value in these deals, these players did post decent production early on in their deals. The real glaring issues only crept up later, as injuries and age took over. There haven't been many players who signed big UFA deals that have performed so poorly as Clarkson has this year.
Goalies are a bit different, and because it's sort of an apples to oranges thing, I'm leaving them out here. Though had I included them Cristobal Huet and Ilya Bryzgalov would have made the list.
So, all this to say that while I continue to hold out hope that Clarkson returns to form, the few precedents that I found don't exactly fill one with optimism.
Britishbulldog
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CarltonTheBear said:
That's funny about Mayers. I was really pleased to see him in Toronto. He could hit, skate, fight, score the odd goal and then I heard a report that he never wanted to play for the Leafs and man did it show.
I was so disappointed.
LuncheonMeat
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mc said:
As much as I hate his season, I'm not willing to write him off yet. i would love to see what he can do with a full season and camp, and preferable on a line with Bolland... which is another issue. If he sucks next year I think he gets pegged for a buyout, but I hope he gets it together and finds some guys he can play with. A few more shots on net from him might help the cause as well.
2badknees
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drummond said:
If Komorov is a 2M addition, then dumping Orr pretty much gets you there, no? I'm of the similar opinion of luncheonmeat, Clarkson probably isn't worth 5M, but he's not going to be this bad through the duration of his contract.
Having Bodie/Clarkson/Komorov on my team in place of Orr/Mclaren/blank updates the squad to the new NHL imo.
Highlander
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That aint going to happen, as long as Clarkson is healthy he will play?.
dintymoore
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Big hat trick game against his old team for Clarkson tonight.. haha
Highlander
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Wouldnt that B nice?
bustaheims
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Zee said:
Actually, I'm pretty sure he means falling down 3 times in one shift.
GhostofPotvin29
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Zee said:
No it's a "David Clarkson hat-trick" - 3 shifts without falling over. Or if he's really up for the game, he might go for a "natural David Clarkson hat-trick." Not quite as famous as the "Gordie How hat-trick" but, for some players, just as difficult to obtain.
Highlander
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perhaps you meant card trick??