Ducks shopping Ryan
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maplesyrup
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Erndog said:
I think the Leafs could compete with that offer.
Kin
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Sarge said:
Maybe but that's a really high cost. Stepan's 21 and scored 20 goals already in the league and McDonagh has been pretty terrific to open the season and is 22. I don't know what the equivalents are. Probably Gardiner, Kulemin and a 1st maybe? Even then it'd be a toss-up for me as to which deal I take.
Busta Reims said:
...or with most of three years left on Carlyle's contract it puts the Ducks in a further financial hole and only stems the inevitable...
...unless Boudreau pulls a similar stunt as he did when first joining Washington or Carlyle suddenly finds work again.
I think it all boils down to choice of rib sauce at this point.
bustaheims
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Tigger said:
Without really knowing the specifics of Carlyle's contract, if I had to guess, Id' say the entirety of the payout remaining on it is likely less than Bobby Ryan will earn this season. They can easily make up those expenditures elsewhere over the next 2 and a half seasons.
Madferret said:cw said:Busta Reims said:
Where were you two when the deals involving Kadri & taking Jason Blake back were proposed?
Right here. I'm the one or one of the first that raised taking Jason Blake back to eat the dollars of his contract ... but only as a component of a deal. I don't think I raised Kadri nor any specific deal.
If Boudreau doesn't turn the Ducks around quickly and strongly enough for a playoff run, I think it's very safe to say some big contract bucks will be promptly moving out the door to cut their financial losses.
I also think it's safe to say that this:
"Lee, Foligno, & a 1st for Ryan."
won't come that close to getting it done.
Lee is turning into a 6th dman .. maybe - lowest on team in ice time among 7 dmen on a mediocre team. He's not worth much having basically burnt his 1st rounder pedigree.
Foligno is closer to a 3rd liner or a tweener on a good team playing a second line role on a medicore team. I'm not saying that to be disrespectful. I don't mind Foligno at all.
11th overall pick right now.
I don't think that's enough to get Anaheim very excited.
Although you might not want to do it, Rundblad or Cowen or something with more sizzle is probably what it's going to take to win the bidding.
I've read the top coaches get between $1.5 to $2 mil/yr. Wilson was reported to have got a 4yr deal for $5.6 mil in '08 (=$1.4/yr) plus bonuses (I don't know if that's accurate). Sutter may have got up to $3 mil to come coach the Devils.
I'd guess Carlyle's total deal is probably and very roughly $1.5 mil/yr for 3 years = $4.5 mil - almost Bobby Ryan territory for a season but only a $1.5 mil hit this year.
I'd guess Carlyle's total deal is probably and very roughly $1.5 mil/yr for 3 years = $4.5 mil - almost Bobby Ryan territory for a season but only a $1.5 mil hit this year.
bustaheims
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Madferret said:
You're not getting Kadri and Blake for that package either.
Madferret
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cw said:Madferret said:cw said:Busta Reims said:
Where were you two when the deals involving Kadri & taking Jason Blake back were proposed?
Right here. I'm the one or one of the first that raised taking Jason Blake back to eat the dollars of his contract ... but only as a component of a deal. I don't think I raised Kadri nor any specific deal.
If Boudreau doesn't turn the Ducks around quickly and strongly enough for a playoff run, I think it's very safe to say some big contract bucks will be promptly moving out the door to cut their financial losses.
I also think it's safe to say that this:
"Lee, Foligno, & a 1st for Ryan."
won't come that close to getting it done.
Lee is turning into a 6th dman .. maybe - lowest on team in ice time among 7 dmen on a mediocre team. He's not worth much having basically burnt his 1st rounder pedigree.
Foligno is closer to a 3rd liner or a tweener on a good team playing a second line role on a medicore team. I'm not saying that to be disrespectful. I don't mind Foligno at all.
11th overall pick right now.
I don't think that's enough to get Anaheim very excited.
Although you might not want to do it, Rundblad or Cowen or something with more sizzle is probably what it's going to take to win the bidding.
cw...I love you brother...but I was taking the piss when I posted that.
iwas11in67
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cw said:
Totally agree with you here.
But would trading for Ryan now help the Getzlaf sweepstakes - and i know to have them both we'd have to move a few contracts. Luckily Burke would know if those two were good buddies or not.
soc7 said:
I don't know if getting one would influence the other or not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMSHf79zlUk
These two seem pretty tight though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFDcTt_Ei_Q
Perry would be my second choice over Ryan.
I just would like us to have a true #1 center which is why I lean to preferring Getzlaf. Any of the three could obviously help the Leafs top six.