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Flyers @ Leafs - Nov. 9th, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050

What a dumb penalty by Mikahyev.  So obvious.  This team is so undisciplined.  Only Nylander is held accountable. 
 
And now down 2-0.  My word.  Awful penalty.  Bad penalty killing.  They don?t get better.  There is no progression.  Stale and unmotivated.  That?s the leafs for the last 2 years. 
 
Not much to say after the first.  Same old same old.  Lazy and undisciplined.  That is the leafs identity. 
 
So is it the team underperforming or is this team just not very good.  It just seems like every single game the Leafs struggle to perform.  They go on a dominate stretch later in the game trying to tie or win but play so listless the rest of the game.  Is the coaching staff holding the team back or do we have a serious problem with this team.
 
azzurri63 said:
See we?re off to another rousing start.

They played better than the score indicates.  Philly got a very fortunate bounce for the 2nd goal.  The top line was fine.  91/16, not so much.  Tavares really has to get it going.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Strangelove said:
At what point should we be concerned about how completely ineffective Marner has been 5 on 5?

That whole line is in a funk.

Yep. But Marner's 4 5-on-5 points in 17 games is pretty nuts. They've had no ability to create and sustain offensive pressure.

Edit: I guess Tavares's 2 5-on-5 points in 10 games is also pretty nuts.
 
L K said:
So is it the team underperforming or is this team just not very good.  It just seems like every single game the Leafs struggle to perform.  They go on a dominate stretch later in the game trying to tie or win but play so listless the rest of the game.  Is the coaching staff holding the team back or do we have a serious problem with this team.

It?s 100 percent coaching. That?s been the case for 2 years.  Until Babcock goes this team has no chance.
 
L K said:
So is it the team underperforming or is this team just not very good.  It just seems like every single game the Leafs struggle to perform.  They go on a dominate stretch later in the game trying to tie or win but play so listless the rest of the game.  Is the coaching staff holding the team back or do we have a serious problem with this team.

It?s all good. Babcock said it the other day that team is playing better and winning.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
azzurri63 said:
See we?re off to another rousing start.

They played better than the score indicates.  Philly got a very fortunate bounce for the 2nd goal.  The top line was fine.  91/16, not so much.  Tavares really has to get it going.

They played exactly as the score indicated. 
 
I keep waiting for this team to come out from the 1st whistle and take control and dominate. Top 2 lines are just not the same.
 
lc9 said:
L K said:
So is it the team underperforming or is this team just not very good.  It just seems like every single game the Leafs struggle to perform.  They go on a dominate stretch later in the game trying to tie or win but play so listless the rest of the game.  Is the coaching staff holding the team back or do we have a serious problem with this team.

It?s 100 percent coaching. That?s been the case for 2 years.  Until Babcock goes this team has no chance.

Which coach do suggest the team hire to lead the leafs this year?
 
princedpw said:
lc9 said:
L K said:
So is it the team underperforming or is this team just not very good.  It just seems like every single game the Leafs struggle to perform.  They go on a dominate stretch later in the game trying to tie or win but play so listless the rest of the game.  Is the coaching staff holding the team back or do we have a serious problem with this team.

It?s 100 percent coaching. That?s been the case for 2 years.  Until Babcock goes this team has no chance.

Which coach do suggest the team hire to lead the leafs this year?

Should have turned it over to Keefe last summer. 
 
azzurri63 said:
I keep waiting for this team to come out from the 1st whistle and take control and dominate. Top 2 lines are just not the same.

Me too. Just isn?t happening...and don?t know the reason for the apparent lack of effort. Unfortunately the only options seem to be moving a good piece  but frankly I think our D personnel are ok...OR replacing Babcock which is the more traditional route.

You can?t dispute the record going back into last year so this is not just the ?new players? excuse.

If that bullet is spent and we still stink? Uh oh....
 

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