Franson at the deadline

[Rebel_1812]

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/franson-unsure-of-leaf-future-as-trade-talks-swirl-1.193296

He wants to stay a Leaf blahblahblah.  If they dump Phaneuf to sign him then I guess I'm OK with it but despite his better play this year I think he's too slow.  Get rid of both and pile up picks.

He always can stay a leaf if he is willing to sign the contract they offered him.  If he wants more then they can pay, then he wants money more then he wants to stay a leaf.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

So, wait, you're telling me that, contrary to popular belief, Pierre Lebrun isn't writing for editorinleaf.com?

Negotiations fell apart at the last minute. They wouldn't give him his own parking space.

He should understand that one-car garages are pretty uncompromising.

 

[Peter D.]

The more I think of it, the more I'd actually want to see the Leafs re-sign Franson.  But someone else's salary would have to be moved to allow for that to happen.  Easier said than done.

Man did Nonis and Loiselle really put the team in a bind with their cap management.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

The more I think of it, the more I'd actually want to see the Leafs re-sign Franson.  But someone else's salary would have to be moved to allow for that to happen.  Easier said than done.

The problem is that type of move would likely only occur after the season/at the draft. And the team can't risk keeping Franson past the deadline and not being able to clear the necessary salary later to sign him.

Absolute best case scenario is the team tells Franson they really want him but just can't fit him under the cap as things stand now. They wink at him a couple of times, trade him at the deadline and then if there's cap space available on July 1st they talk again.

 

[TML fan]

If the Leafs do end up trading Phaneuf I would like to see Franson come back.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Myers getting off the market likely increases Franson's value. His hip potentially being injured does not though.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

I wonder if they'll move him a little before the deadline, some team might overpay now, not wanting to be dragged into a huge overpayment in the deadline day auction.

I'm sure most trades would be contingent on players passing some form of medical, so I doubt it'd put that many people off.

 

[Chev-boyar-sky]

The more I think of it, the more I'd actually want to see the Leafs re-sign Franson.  But someone else's salary would have to be moved to allow for that to happen.  Easier said than done.

Man did Nonis and Loiselle really put the team in a bind with their cap management.

That can't be true. I read somewhere that Loiselle was a Cap "expert".

 

[CarltonTheBear]

That can't be true. I read somewhere that Loiselle was a Cap "expert".

He is, unfortunately his expertise actually lies in baseball hats. Somebody got their wires crossed.

 

[L K]

Loiselle was a cap expert.  Unfortunately his degree was conferred in 2003.

 

[bustaheims]

That can't be true. I read somewhere that Loiselle was a Cap "expert".

The reality is that was an unfortunate typo. He's actually a carp expert. He's really into fishing.

 

[LuncheonMeat]

That can't be true. I read somewhere that Loiselle was a Cap "expert".

The reality is that was an unfortunate typo. He's actually a carp expert. He's really into fishing.

And I'm guessing he spent all of his money on a really great rod and reel, and didn't have enough left over to buy line or hooks.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

That can't be true. I read somewhere that Loiselle was a Cap "expert".

The reality is that was an unfortunate typo. He's actually a carp expert. He's really into fishing.

And I'm guessing he spent all of his money on a really great rod and reel, and didn't have enough left over to buy line or hooks.

But his cooler got a great NMC.

 

[bustaheims]

And I'm guessing he spent all of his money on a really great rod and reel, and didn't have enough left over to buy line or hooks.

My guess is he invests heavily in sinkers.

 

[Kin]

That can't be true. I read somewhere that Loiselle was a Cap "expert".

The reality is that was an unfortunate typo. He's actually a carp expert. He's really into fishing.

Eh, someone beat me to the joke.

Anyways, I think it's a little unfair to blame Loiselle for the general state of the Leafs' cap situation. There were things he didn't handle well, sure, but he didn't decide to sign Clarkson or buyout Grabo.

 

[L K]

That can't be true. I read somewhere that Loiselle was a Cap "expert".

The reality is that was an unfortunate typo. He's actually a carp expert. He's really into fishing.

Eh, someone beat me to the joke.

Anyways, I think it's a little unfair to blame Loiselle for the general state of the Leafs' cap situation. There were things he didn't handle well, sure, but he didn't decide to sign Clarkson or buyout Grabo.

That is true, and ultimately the GM can choose to ignore advice.  That being said, the Leafs, as a non-playoff team were always struggling to stay under the cap and kept managing to pick up cap overage penalties despite not really having the kind of roster that should have got them in that kind of trouble.  That is what I have a bigger problem with rather than what individual contracts were signed.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

That can't be true. I read somewhere that Loiselle was a Cap "expert".

The reality is that was an unfortunate typo. He's actually a carp expert. He's really into fishing.

Eh, someone beat me to the joke.

Anyways, I think it's a little unfair to blame Loiselle for the general state of the Leafs' cap situation. There were things he didn't handle well, sure, but he didn't decide to sign Clarkson or buyout Grabo.

That is true, and ultimately the GM can choose to ignore advice.  That being said, the Leafs, as a non-playoff team were always struggling to stay under the cap and kept managing to pick up cap overage penalties despite not really having the kind of roster that should have got them in that kind of trouble.  That is what I have a bigger problem with rather than what individual contracts were signed.

Weren't there also a couple issues with recalling guys from the Marlies when they couldn't or something?  I recall this year a couple moves from the AHL made simply for cap purposes because it benefited the team in some way.

 

[Kin]

That is true, and ultimately the GM can choose to ignore advice.  That being said, the Leafs, as a non-playoff team were always struggling to stay under the cap and kept managing to pick up cap overage penalties despite not really having the kind of roster that should have got them in that kind of trouble.  That is what I have a bigger problem with rather than what individual contracts were signed.

Sure, Loiselle wasn't good at his job. No argument there. My point is just that he could have done his job perfectly and the general issue of the Leafs being unable to sign Franson without moving someone else would still exist.