Game 8 - Leafs @ Flyers - Monday Oct 24th 2011 - 19:00 EST - 4-2 Loss
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princedpw said:
I'm not taking it that badly either. The Flyers didn't blow them away. They came back after 3-1. They were pressing to tie it up. They didn't roll over. For the first half of the second period, I'm not sure the Flyers got a shot on goal. They didn't get embarrassed against a good team.
They did make some major gaffes with a guy who has a great ability to finish.
As much as many in the media have touted the NHL depth of the Leafs blue line, I continue to feel they're the weakest link defensively followed by the defensive play of the forwards.
I think Frattin is snake bit and it's just a matter of time. I think he's improved since the start of the season. I still like his game. EDIT: I really like Jake's game as well - he's amazing in how he can recover when guys threaten to get by him.
When you think that this team has done as well as it has with Grabvoski's line not really firing on all cylinders yet and Reimer not standing on his head like last year, while breaking in a couple of rookies, the possibility that they can play better and not rely as much on Kessel's line is not an unreasonable one. I think that's still encouraging as well.
If this team falls short of the playoffs, it probably won't be by much. They have some weaknesses and issues but it looks to me like the best team Wilson's iced since he arrived.
GhostofPotvin29
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cw said:
And while missing a player who can put up points.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=597339
Flyers General Manager Paul Holmgren said Pronger was examined at the Wells Fargo Center by team opthamologist Dr. Stephen Goldman, and after initially suffering from blurred vision in the eye, Holmgren said Pronger's vision did return to normal before he was sent home.
Holmgren said Pronger will be on bed rest for the next four days, with planned trips to the eye doctor each day.
"He's going to see the eye doctor every day for the next four days," said Holmgren. "We think after that he'll be ? I don't want to say out of danger, but if everything goes OK and the swelling goes down, he should start on an exercise program sometime after that and we're hoping he could rejoin the team in 10 days to two weeks -- skating-wise, not necessarily playing."
Holmgren said the bed rest order is to make sure there's no build-up of blood behind the eye, which could create more issues.
Holmgren did add that when Pronger returned, the 18-year veteran will be wearing a visor.
All things considered, under the circumstances, that's a pretty good report.
Flyers General Manager Paul Holmgren said Pronger was examined at the Wells Fargo Center by team opthamologist Dr. Stephen Goldman, and after initially suffering from blurred vision in the eye, Holmgren said Pronger's vision did return to normal before he was sent home.
Holmgren said Pronger will be on bed rest for the next four days, with planned trips to the eye doctor each day.
"He's going to see the eye doctor every day for the next four days," said Holmgren. "We think after that he'll be ? I don't want to say out of danger, but if everything goes OK and the swelling goes down, he should start on an exercise program sometime after that and we're hoping he could rejoin the team in 10 days to two weeks -- skating-wise, not necessarily playing."
Holmgren said the bed rest order is to make sure there's no build-up of blood behind the eye, which could create more issues.
Holmgren did add that when Pronger returned, the 18-year veteran will be wearing a visor.
All things considered, under the circumstances, that's a pretty good report.
J
Jalili
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Pronger is one of my favorites. Glad to see he's okay.
Tigger said:
There's not that much more to it at all. I mean, they have a decent team. Theyre at least as good as the bottom few playoff teams in the East last year, right? So unless Reimer is winning the Vezina (which I don't think he is) something is going to have to separate this team from the rest of the pack in the East, and I prefer not to rely on luck.
TML fan said:
Right, but at this juncture, playing a pretty strong Philly team that people had pegged as a top 3 team and lost while not being clearly outmatched and still managing to be 5-2-1, I'm willing to wait a bit longer before trouncing on this team. The 1999-2000 Leafs that went to the conference finals had a similar record to start.
It's going to be a dogfight, but everyone said that. I just feel like after a loss or a goal you're ready to play the blame game and make a hyperbole out of a very young season. I don't want to sound like Andy Frost here, but while I understand there are concerns, of course they need secondary scoring and quite a bit of work, it's either optimism that the team will improve over the course of the season or the pessimism that they won't that colour how you view the team. And to be honest, I feel like some of your views are both hyperbolic and premature - the team hasn't even had a losing streak yet, which happens to every team in this league at one point or another and in a few posts back you basically wrote the team off from the playoffs, which isn't surprising since this comment came after a loss.
But regardless, I think it makes a lot more sense to let the team play a bit more before making any long term conclusions about the numbers. If not then I guess it would be fair to say that Kessel will score 153pts this year, that Washington will end with a perfect record and Jonathan Quick will win the Vezina.
It's not like this is a new problem, Bender. I'm not just pulling this out of nowhere after one loss. It's games like tonight that are the difference between making and missing the playoffs. I wrote the team off for a very specific reason, not just because they lost. It's what I believe kept them out of the playoffs last year. Nothing has changed so there's really no reason for me to expect different results.
The Leafs have improved their team. So what? So have other teams. What's going to set them apart? Special teams is a good place to start.
Lastly, this is something that i believe will keep the Leafs out of the playoffs if it's not corrected, and that frustrates me. If you don't like my opinion, that's fine, but don't assume that I'm just being reactionary and sensationalist just because you don't want to hear it.
The Leafs have improved their team. So what? So have other teams. What's going to set them apart? Special teams is a good place to start.
Lastly, this is something that i believe will keep the Leafs out of the playoffs if it's not corrected, and that frustrates me. If you don't like my opinion, that's fine, but don't assume that I'm just being reactionary and sensationalist just because you don't want to hear it.
Tigger said:
Did I not just say that the Leafs are a decent team, implying that their 5-on-5 is not bad? I'm not convinced that they are a top 8 team in the East. They're going to have to fight for it and there isn't much separating the teams around where the Leafs are. Id be more convinced they could do it if I had any confidence at all that they could kill a penalty or score a power play goal when they need to.
maplesyrup
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Not sure what to take from this one... I thought Gus should have had the 3rd goal but would have like to have seen him stop one of the two Jagr breakaways but whatever... we certainly didn't lose because of his goaltending. I'd probably give him a "C" on the night. Pretty chippy game and I thought the penalties took away from the flow. Sucks we couldn't get a point here.
GhostofPotvin29
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Floyd said:
3 Jagr breakaways, which he stopped one.