Goaltending conundrum

[Mr. Leaf]

I am prepared to witness the grandiose exploits of the dynamic duo this year -- starring Reimer & Scrivens -- and keep on dreamin'! 

Those two are not bad enough to have the Leafs finish in 30th place. They'll keep us in the middle of the pack.

Maybe we can trade them both for Mason or Dubnyk then?

Then we're talking lottery pick baby!

Call it the 'Not Winnin for McKinnon' Derby.

Great, now you just did TSN's job for them making their headlines for next year.  lol

I like it!  Quite catchy!

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Doctors have told Reimer that any symptoms he experienced dating back to that season-changing night in Montreal were directly related to trouble in his neck and not a concussion as had been previously thought.

Those doctors clearly haven't talked to Reimer's mother.

 

[Hampreacher]

I think Reimer can be a starter in the NHL. The type of injure he had would be a handicap for a goalie. Plus the second year is always harder for a goalie. He will bounce back. As far as the leafsthey will improve. They need to concentrate more on a#1 center. Burke has slowly built the team up from what was  worse than an expansion team when he took the job. He might have over estimated the team he had when he was hired and maybe over paid for Kessel but he is slowly building the team. We need to be patient.

 

[ZBBM]

Reimer as a no 1 is a huge gamble. I hope I'm wrong but I have doubts about his basic mechanics.

 

[Bonsixx]

Reimer as a no 1 is a huge gamble. I hope I'm wrong but I have doubts about his basic mechanics.

I have doubts about his ability to take a knock in the crease without suffering another concussion.

 

[Rebel_1812]

Reimer's bad and he should feel bad.

Your no zoidberg.

 

[Rebel_1812]

Reimer as a no 1 is a huge gamble. I hope I'm wrong but I have doubts about his basic mechanics.

They seemed pretty good when he finished his first season and the first 4 games of his second season.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Reimer as a no 1 is a huge gamble. I hope I'm wrong but I have doubts about his basic mechanics.

I have doubts about his ability to take a knock in the crease without suffering another concussion.

Doctors have told Reimer that any symptoms he experienced dating back to that season-changing night in Montreal were directly related to trouble in his neck and not a concussion as had been previously thought.

 

[Hampreacher]

Look at how a goalie plays and think if you had a neck injury that was not 100%. Riemer did great in 10-11 season. He will be great.

 

[Corn Flake]

Reimer as a no 1 is a huge gamble. I hope I'm wrong but I have doubts about his basic mechanics.

I have doubts about his ability to take a knock in the crease without suffering another concussion.

Doctors have told Reimer that any symptoms he experienced dating back to that season-changing night in Montreal were directly related to trouble in his neck and not a concussion as had been previously thought.

EEETS NOT A KONKUSSHUN. OKAAAAY!?!?!?!



GET DOWN!

 

[riff raff]

He actually wasn't playing that well before the concussion concussion-like symptoms. He had wins, but they were against weak opponents.

Hopefully, it was more of a sophomore slump than the rest of the league figuring out his weaknesses.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

He actually wasn't playing that well before the concussion concussion-like symptoms. He had wins, but they were against weak opponents.

Hopefully, it was more of a sophomore slump than the rest of the league figuring out his weaknesses.

Yeah, people are making way too much out of those 4 games or whatever before the Montreal game. He was ok.

 

[Jalili]

Look at how a goalie plays and think if you had a neck injury that was not 100%. Riemer did great in 10-11 season. He will be great.

Can't say I agree with this. Just because he played well for 37 games as an unknown rookie doesn't mean he's a sure fire bet to do that again, stretched over a full season.

 

[Corn Flake]

He actually wasn't playing that well before the concussion concussion-like symptoms. He had wins, but they were against weak opponents.

Hopefully, it was more of a sophomore slump than the rest of the league figuring out his weaknesses.

Yeah, people are making way too much out of those 4 games or whatever before the Montreal game. He was ok.

6 games, 4 wins, 1 shutout, .911 sv%.  He had a very good pre-season as well if I recall correctly.  I don't know why we always have to shrug off that solid start as not meaning anything.

I know that if he had a horrible start we would never stop hearing about it or pointing to it as being some iron clad reason to say he's a bust.

Derailing a solid start and forced to take a month off mid-season is really really difficult to get back on track.

The point is that there is more than a complete unknown body of work when it come to whether this guy has it or not. Its a matter of whether he can start camp strong, keep it up and stay healthy. 

 

[moon111]

Anytime you have a rookie goalie, the team should expect the need to play more defensively at times should that goalie's confidence start to wane.  Instead, the Leafs played like they had to make the Kessel deal look good.  This year's goaltending could come down to how Carlyle handles the team.  Reimer and Scriven's careers hang in the balance.  I'll be rooting for Detroit anytime the Monster plays.  I'm usually not sentimental towards ex-Leafs.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

6 games, 4 wins, 1 shutout, .911 sv%.  He had a very good pre-season as well if I recall correctly.  I don't know why we always have to shrug off that solid start as not meaning anything.

Right, but I'm saying that his stats make his start look better than it actually was. From what I remember his performance wasn't really the reason we won those games. As riff raff says, all of the teams the Leafs beat struggled out the gate. And if you take out the one shutout against Montreal his SA% is .889 and his GAA is above 3.

edit: He was also 1-3 in the preseason (played all 4 games fully) and had a .888 SA% in them.

 

[Corn Flake]

6 games, 4 wins, 1 shutout, .911 sv%.  He had a very good pre-season as well if I recall correctly.  I don't know why we always have to shrug off that solid start as not meaning anything.

Right, but I'm saying that his stats make his start look better than it actually was. From what I remember his performance wasn't really the reason we won those games. As riff raff says, all of the teams the Leafs beat struggled out the gate. And if you take out the one shutout against Montreal his SA% is .889 and his GAA is above 3.

edit: He was also 1-3 in the preseason (played all 4 games fully) and had a .888 SA% in them.

Ok so it's not about stats in the regular season but it is about stats in the pre-season????

To me he looked like a guy who was going to be able to handle the load of a #1 and while he would have off games here and there, much like he did in his 35 games the year before, he could bounce back and play well the next game. 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Ok so it's not about stats in the regular season but it is about stats in the pre-season????

Whatever helps me support my theory!

But really, I'm not saying the stats don't mean anything. I'm saying that one shutout against Montreal, to me at least, looks more like an outlier than anything else and it provides a boost to his overall stats. In his other 8 stats prior to the injury (both pre-season and regular season) his SA% is .888. Obviously, that's not really impressive.

I'm just saying this because it seems like Reimer is getting a pass this season just because of his injury. But really, he wasn't anything special before the injury this season, and things certainly didn't get much better when he came back. And I think the likelihood of him just having a sophomore slump is just about as likely as his rookie season being a fluke or one-year wonder.

 

[Rebel_1812]

6 games, 4 wins, 1 shutout, .911 sv%.  He had a very good pre-season as well if I recall correctly.  I don't know why we always have to shrug off that solid start as not meaning anything.

Right, but I'm saying that his stats make his start look better than it actually was. From what I remember his performance wasn't really the reason we won those games. As riff raff says, all of the teams the Leafs beat struggled out the gate. And if you take out the one shutout against Montreal his SA% is .889 and his GAA is above 3.

edit: He was also 1-3 in the preseason (played all 4 games fully) and had a .888 SA% in them.

Don't we get to remove his worst pre season game before we compute his pre season SA% ?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

6 games, 4 wins, 1 shutout, .911 sv%.  He had a very good pre-season as well if I recall correctly.  I don't know why we always have to shrug off that solid start as not meaning anything.

Right, but I'm saying that his stats make his start look better than it actually was. From what I remember his performance wasn't really the reason we won those games. As riff raff says, all of the teams the Leafs beat struggled out the gate. And if you take out the one shutout against Montreal his SA% is .889 and his GAA is above 3.

edit: He was also 1-3 in the preseason (played all 4 games fully) and had a .888 SA% in them.

Don't we get to remove his worst pre season game before we compute his pre season SA% ?

If there was one that stood out as much as the Montreal shootout I would, but there isn't. With that said, even if we did remove his worst preseason performance and his best regular season performance his SA% would still be under .900.