Idiocracy

[Bullfrog]

My point is why would the rigging be only on one side.

Anyway it does not matter because this is all complete nonesense.

Oh, well that's easy. Democrats are filthy, immoral people and Republicans are morally impeccable.

 

[Phileas Fogg]

My point is why would the rigging be only on one side.

Anyway it does not matter because this is all complete nonesense.

Oh, well that's easy. Democrats are filthy, immoral people and Republicans are morally impeccable.

loser.com

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1330718012576571395

 

[Hobbes]

...I can tell you that every Conservative voter I know(really that's just my family as I don't talk a lot of politics with friends), is embarrassed by Ford and concerned about O'Toole. I can tell you that I didn't vote O'Toole in the past election. Nor do I think he's the right person for the job. It's concerning when the party you've been voting for has wandered off into an area you don't agree with. I don't necessarily agree with Liberal or NDP policies. Now we find ourselves not agreeing with Conservative policies(or methods) either.

In a case like that you have two (or perhaps three) choices.

Strip away the party labels and your past voting history, look at the platforms, and vote for whoever you feel will do the best job for you and for Canadians in general. No one party will ever have the "perfect" platform so go with the one that most closely reflects your priorities. That can change, year to year and leader to leader so don't concern yourself about identifying with a party/tribe...just go with whoever seems most likely to do the most good in the next 4-5 years.

If you prefer, and identify strongly with being a Conservative but are uncomfortable with the direction your party is taking, make sure you let your MP and MPP know in no uncertain terms how you're feeling. Write a letter (yes, those actually work because a letter from 1 person usually means there are hundreds of others who share that person's concerns who are silent). And then if you can't stomach your party's leadership or current trends, spend one election cycle voting strategically to send a message, and when the Conservative campaign people come knocking at your door tell them who you're voting for a why, and tell them that if they want your vote back in future elections they need to reconsider (as a party) who they're putting into leadership roles.

I've been a Liberal voter all my life but I've been increasingly concerned that they've been too slow to move on what I consider to be extremely urgent environmental concerns, so for the last federal and provincial elections I voted for the Green Party candidate in my riding and made sure my Liberal MP and MPP were aware of it. I don't agree with many of the other Green Party platform items, but in this one thing I really wanted to send a message. Who knows...maybe my one little vote helped convince Trudeau it was worth tabling that new environmental legislation last week. Next election cycle I'll almost certainly go back to voting Liberal but we'll see.

(For what it's worth, O'Toole scares me and I think would take the country down a very bad road so I will almost certainly vote strategically for whoever appears to be the front-running non-Conservative party. Normally I've been reasonably content during times of Conservative governments so I've never had this level of anti-Conservative angst before and have been just as content when they've won. Not this time.)

 

[Joe S.]

So trump has allowed the transition to start yet still says he concedes nothing and will continue to fight.

Good times.

 

[Bender]

So trump has allowed the transition to start yet still says he concedes nothing and will continue to fight.

Good times.

What a moron. He thinks he can litigate his way out of this like he does with his corps.

 

[Deebo]

So trump has allowed the transition to start yet still says he concedes nothing and will continue to fight.

Good times.

What a moron. He thinks he can litigate his way out of this like he does with his corps.

He doesn't think that, he knows if he pretends to fight then he can still exploit his base for donations to help pay off debt. He is just stealing money from his supporters at this point.

 

[Frank E]

So trump has allowed the transition to start yet still says he concedes nothing and will continue to fight.

Good times.

What a moron. He thinks he can litigate his way out of this like he does with his corps.

He doesn't think that, he knows if he pretends to fight then he can still exploit his base for donations to help pay off debt. He is just stealing money from his supporters at this point.

I almost feel bad for those sending in money...almost.

 

[Kin]

Also by never conceding he's setting himself up for a lifetime of never admitting he lost the election freely and fairly and that's the sort of stuff that plays to the people he's going to try to continue soaking money from over the next few years.

 

[bustaheims]

He doesn't think that, he knows if he pretends to fight then he can still exploit his base for donations to help pay off debt. He is just stealing money from his supporters at this point.

That's what I suspect, too. I think he knows the legal fights, etc., have no hope of changing anything, though I also don't think he believes he lost. I imagine he genuinely believes the system is rigged against him (it's not) and he's fighting an enemy he cannot defeat through conventional means (which, is somewhat true - that enemy, of course, is democracy itself). But, the longer he keeps the charade going, the longer he can sucker his base into paying off the debts his campaign accumulated.

 

[Deebo]

They are even told thier money won't be used to fund legal challenges:

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/11/every-day-trump-repeatedly-emails-his-supporters-a-dangerous-message-democracy-doesnt-work/

Yes, this is what I am told every day?multiple times?by Trump, his family, and his lieutenants. I am on several rightwing email lists, including various Trump campaign lists, and for the past three weeks, each day I have received a steady stream of emails signed by Trump or one of his minions. These missives all request money for Trump?s so-called ?Election Defense Fund??that is, his effort to overturn the election results and retain power?and they are obvious acts of grift. Though they generally ask for small amounts?from $5 to $45?the fine print on the donation page notes that unless you kick in about $8,000, the money goes to Trump?s political operation and the Republican National Committee, not the special fund that pays for the legal challenges Trump has been mounting (and losing) and the recounts he has been requesting. These emails are merely the latest iteration of Trump?s campaign money-grab, as he tries to financially exploit the clown-show coup Giuliani has been running for him.

 

[herman]

It has worked for indulgences/prosperity gospel evangelists for centuries, an interestingly ironic tactic from people who preach avoiding taxes.

 

[Zee]

I really hope they can nail this guy for something that lands him in prison so he can't run again in 2024

 

[Frank E]

Guys I'm starting to get a feeling that Trump's legal team isn't going to be successful in overturning some of the election results.

 

[bustaheims]

Guys I'm starting to get a feeling that Trump's legal team isn't going to be successful in overturning some of the election results.

I'm not convinced they could overturn an empty bowl.

Or that they know the difference between overturn and turnover.

 

[Frank E]

Guys I'm starting to get a feeling that Trump's legal team isn't going to be successful in overturning some of the election results.

I'm not convinced they could overturn an empty bowl.

Or that they know the difference between overturn and turnover.

You hungry busta?

 

[bustaheims]

Guys I'm starting to get a feeling that Trump's legal team isn't going to be successful in overturning some of the election results.

I'm not convinced they could overturn an empty bowl.

Or that they know the difference between overturn and turnover.

You hungry busta?

I could eat.

 

[Frank E]

Guys I'm starting to get a feeling that Trump's legal team isn't going to be successful in overturning some of the election results.

I'm not convinced they could overturn an empty bowl.

Or that they know the difference between overturn and turnover.

You hungry busta?

I could eat.

I heard there's a good wings joint open in Etobicoke. 

Say around 6?

 

[bustaheims]

Guys I'm starting to get a feeling that Trump's legal team isn't going to be successful in overturning some of the election results.

I'm not convinced they could overturn an empty bowl.

Or that they know the difference between overturn and turnover.

You hungry busta?

I could eat.

I heard there's a good wings joint open in Etobicoke. 

Say around 6?

Mmmm. Wings.

 

[Zee]

Guys I'm starting to get a feeling that Trump's legal team isn't going to be successful in overturning some of the election results.

I'm not convinced they could overturn an empty bowl.

Or that they know the difference between overturn and turnover.

If they were looking for a turnover they should have added Cody Ceci to the legal team. Boom! I'm here all week!