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Jays Roster Discussion

L K said:
Nik the Trik said:
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/22469376/marcus-stroman-angry-toronto-blue-jays-negativity-arbitration

Well that seems like a smart thing to do to save 400 thousand bucks.
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I don?t know, it seems like Stroman has some paper thin skin and seems to lash out on Twitter over a lot of stuff.
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That's sort of what I mean though. You know he's that kind of guy so you're going to go to the wall over a relatively small sum? I get you can't give the guy everything he wants but we're not talking millions here and you want to get him signed to a long term deal in the near future anyway.

If the Jays are going to keep pretending they're a mid-market team and spending like it they can't be too picky about what sorts of talented guys they try to keep around. The ace they have might have to be handled delicately. If they were willing to go out and spend on an Arrieta or Darvish they could be less willing to put up with nonsense. Seems like the risk outweighs the reward here. 
 
It's sad to see Lawrie go out the way he did.  I would have rathered him over Solarte or Diaz as our infield backup.  He would have been a fan favorite here.  It must be injuries.  He's a very talented player.
 
So Donaldson is not signing here and he expects to be a free agent in August.  Hopefully the Jays can get something for him at the trade deadline.  If not they will at least get a compensatory draft pick.  I think with Guererro Junior coming up it kind of makes sense to let Donaldson walk.  Too bad.  He's an outstanding player.
 
Jays have traded RH reliever Seung-hwan Oh to Colorado.
Nothing confirmed yet, but return is reported to be a pair of minor league 1B, Chad Spanberger and Sean Bouchard.
If that is indeed the return then this is a solid deal for the Jays.
 
Captain Canuck said:
Jays have traded RH reliever Seung-hwan Oh to Colorado.
Nothing confirmed yet, but return is reported to be a pair of minor league 1B, Chad Spanberger and Sean Bouchard.
If that is indeed the return then this is a solid deal for the Jays.
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Eh that seems like a pretty weak return to me. Both are 22, 1B playing A-ball. And Oh has a cheap option for next year. He should have been/be able to yield a better return than that..
 
Andy said:
Eh that seems like a pretty weak return to me. Both are 22, 1B playing A-ball. And Oh has a cheap option for next year. He should have been/be able to yield a better return than that..
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For a reliever who isn't a closer, it's an excellent return - even with Oh's option for next season. Spanberger has put up huge power numbers, and is only in his 2nd professional season - which is why he's only in A-ball. Bouchard is less impressive, but also in his 2nd professional season and he's played more as an OF this season than a 1B.
 
bustaheims said:
Andy said:
Eh that seems like a pretty weak return to me. Both are 22, 1B playing A-ball. And Oh has a cheap option for next year. He should have been/be able to yield a better return than that..
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For a reliever who isn't a closer, it's an excellent return - even with Oh's option for next season. Spanberger has put up huge power numbers, and is only in his 2nd professional season - which is why he's only in A-ball. Bouchard is less impressive, but also in his 2nd professional season and he's played more as an OF this season than a 1B.
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Turns out the return is Spanberger (Good power but hitter friendly park + crappy BB rate +1B position isn't all that encouraging) and Hall, a LH OF drafted 35th overall with a bit of potential (plus a PTBNL or cash). Not a bad return (certainly not excellent) but yea, I guess you won't get a whole lot for a reliever, despite the cheap 2nd year option. I'm happy with this for a piece picked up for nothing.
 
Jays have claimed RH reliever Oliver Drake off waivers from the Angels. Jays will be his 4th team this year, a warm body to plug into the pen for a couple months.
 
Jays have cut ties with Roberto Osuna, trading him to Houston for former closer Ken Giles, minor league RHP Hector Perez and minor league RHP David Paulino.

Couple of the Astros better prospects...Perez is in A ball so a few years away, Paulino was highly regarded prior to a PED suspension last year...could be in the Jays rotation mix going forward.

As for Osuna, you never like to lose that type of talent (believe the youngest player to reach 100 saves in MLB history). Innocent until proven guilty right?, but at the end of the day if things didn't go in his favour the Jays would get even less in return (if anything) and there is no way he would have been able to pitch for Toronto again.

Good for the Jays to get what they did under the circumstances.

 
I get the whole innocent until proven guilt thing but why then do you accept (key word from his camp was accept) a 75 (seventy five!) game suspension if you?re innocent.
 
Innocent until proven guilty is a standard for a court of law and potentially some quasi-judicial settings(work disputes, depending on collective bargaining). If the Jays themselves know certain things, they're not obligated to somehow "prove" it before acting in response.
 
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