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Kadri Misses Meeting - Sent Home

Chris said:
And...some teams might be better able to handle a "bad influence" or two. It depends on the makeup of the team, if there are strong leaders, etc.

Yeah, Nashville is a perfect example.  They took Neal from Pittsburg after he was having hissy fits and they also signed Ribero after being bought out by the cash strapped Coyotes because he was poor in character.
 
3. Toronto wants to keep Nazem Kadri rather than trade him, but, after the Maple Leafs increased their self-imposed suspension, one of the questions being asked was, ?If they did want to trade him, did they just damage his value?? After a little bit of investigation, the answer appears to be no.

Past teammates and coaches, and even opponents, respect his ability and his compete level. That?s the highest compliment he gets: his fearlessness and willingness to stand up against anyone at any time. However, whatever worries the Maple Leafs away from the rink, it?s not a secret to the rest of the NHL. That?s why his value hasn?t dropped; because the teams I queried have the same concerns. Brendan Shanahan must know that, too.

link: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-video-review-tabled-gm-meetings/
 
Kadri talks for the first time since Shanahan's scrum: http://www.tsn.ca/kadri-of-course-i-m-embarrassed-1.230051

Quotes from @markmasters:

"I'm embarrassed about it. It's a lesson learned. That's how I'm going to approach it. I'm a little bit humiliated."

"It's a lesson that couldn't be more clear. I have no ill feelings for anyone else. I don't blame anyone else."

"A bit of a wake-up call. Certain things won't be tolerated. Shanny made it clear what has to be done. Things have to change."

"What I know is I want to be part of the [Leafs] future & they expressed the same feeling so, for that, I'm thankful"

Kadri says meeting with management ended in "positive way"; Nazem says experience has been an "eye-opener"

What, specifically, will Kadri change off the ice? "Preparation & being ready & understanding that professionalism is huge"

Kadri on playing in Toronto: "A lot of times you're forced to grow up a lot faster than you really want to"

Kadri on his off-ice issues: "I can't really go into specifics"; says some rumours out there are "untrue"

Kadri: "Obviously, things have to change and, given time, those changes will happen"

Kadri: "You can whine about it or accept your consequences & take responsibility & move forward & it makes you a better person"
 
He's saying the right things.  Too bad he didn't take the Clarkson approach and blame it on the team.
 
Highlander said:
Good for him, sounds like he is starting to get the message. I like what he is saying.

Is he really getting the message, or, is he just saying all the right things to give everyone the impression he gets it?
 
Al14 said:
Highlander said:
Good for him, sounds like he is starting to get the message. I like what he is saying.

Is he really getting the message, or, is he just saying all the right things to give everyone the impression he gets it?

I think he should get the benefit of the doubt.
 
Highlander said:
look at our own kids, acting like idiots into there 20's.  We were working or paying our own ways at that age.

as well... retirement age is increasing, as life expectancy does.  We are growing older and older, timeframes for everything are being stretched out.  Having a kid in your 30s is normal now, whereas 50 years ago there was something wrong with you if you wern't married with kids by 25.  It's a different world... wait until life expectancy breaks 90 or 100, it will change even further and more drastically.
 
TDotMassive said:
Highlander said:
look at our own kids, acting like idiots into there 20's.  We were working or paying our own ways at that age.

as well... retirement age is increasing, as life expectancy does.  We are growing older and older, timeframes for everything are being stretched out.  Having a kid in your 30s is normal now, whereas 50 years ago there was something wrong with you if you wern't married with kids by 25.  It's a different world... wait until life expectancy breaks 90 or 100, it will change even further and more drastically.

I believe it's the book series red mars, blue mars, green mars that has a human life expectancy over 500 years.  Think about what that would do to the human race at a social level.  Would you be able to do everything?  Would you be able to take years and then play hockey, or become a doctor.  Then you have the population problems.  Living longer would be a crisis the same as our garbage disposal problems.
 
TDotMassive said:
Highlander said:
look at our own kids, acting like idiots into there 20's.  We were working or paying our own ways at that age.

as well... retirement age is increasing, as life expectancy does.  We are growing older and older, timeframes for everything are being stretched out.  Having a kid in your 30s is normal now, whereas 50 years ago there was something wrong with you if you wern't married with kids by 25.  It's a different world... wait until life expectancy breaks 90 or 100, it will change even further and more drastically.
Some people are idiots and some aren't. I left home at 23 after uni and live a pretty responsible lifestyle. I know people in their 30s who live at home and others who abuse their bodies with bad food and alcohol. It really just depends.
 
Wilson: ''I never felt that Nazem ever listened to me''
http://www.tsn.ca/video/wilson-i-never-felt-that-nazem-ever-listened-to-me-1.230332

Coach?s Corner: Nazem Kadri will leave in two years
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/coachs-corner-nazem-kadri-will-leave-two-years/

This is going to be a painful process ...
 
cw said:
Wilson: ''I never felt that Nazem ever listened to me''
http://www.tsn.ca/video/wilson-i-never-felt-that-nazem-ever-listened-to-me-1.230332

Coach?s Corner: Nazem Kadri will leave in two years
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/coachs-corner-nazem-kadri-will-leave-two-years/

This is going to be a painful process ...

Ron Wilson really needs to go away.  I don't really care for the guys who come out of the woodwork an start retroactively backtalking.  Much less a guy who openly admits an axe to grind and references a 49 game stint with the Leafs on his proof that Nazem didn't listen to him.  Wilson's a blowhard.  I don't care for Cherry in the least because he rarely makes sense and is usually wrong when you can understand what he says, but his constant "I don't kick things when they are down" (spoiler alert, he does) would be some good advice for some of the idiots running the broadcast  and sports media.  Where was Wilson before the collapse.  Coming out after the fact, openly admitting a bias and then spouting off stuff in a vague enough way to be impossible to dispute but also not providing anything concrete is useless click-baiting. 

I've lost interest in the Leafs and it took a hell of a lot to get me to that point.  But I lost interest in the Toronto sports media long before that.  Adding more of this useless garbage only pushes me farther away from that.  I have been cable free for a few years now and use NHL Gamecenter with a US account to watch Leafs games.  I don't watch TSN.  I don't go to their website anymore, I'm completely done with the shoddy "journalism" around the Leafs. 

I'm happy to read blogs and catch the stories through those and the message board but I'm just tired of not only real negativity but contrived stories to keep people who have long since become irrelevant in the sporting world relevant.

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2015/3/14/8214559/in-defence-of-nazem-kadri
 
cw said:
Wilson: ''I never felt that Nazem ever listened to me''
http://www.tsn.ca/video/wilson-i-never-felt-that-nazem-ever-listened-to-me-1.230332

Coach?s Corner: Nazem Kadri will leave in two years
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/coachs-corner-nazem-kadri-will-leave-two-years/

This is going to be a painful process ...

doesn't surprise me wilson and kadri had difficulties.  First of all, wilson had the terrible idea of playing him at the wing and then there was how kadri spoke of randy.  He had nothing but good things to say about randy.  Truth be told randy gave kadri a much better chance to succeed then wilson.
 
L K said:
cw said:
Wilson: ''I never felt that Nazem ever listened to me''
http://www.tsn.ca/video/wilson-i-never-felt-that-nazem-ever-listened-to-me-1.230332

Coach?s Corner: Nazem Kadri will leave in two years
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/coachs-corner-nazem-kadri-will-leave-two-years/

This is going to be a painful process ...

Ron Wilson really needs to go away.  I don't really care for the guys who come out of the woodwork an start retroactively backtalking.  Much less a guy who openly admits an axe to grind and references a 49 game stint with the Leafs on his proof that Nazem didn't listen to him.  Wilson's a blowhard.  I don't care for Cherry in the least because he rarely makes sense and is usually wrong when you can understand what he says, but his constant "I don't kick things when they are down" (spoiler alert, he does) would be some good advice for some of the idiots running the broadcast  and sports media.  Where was Wilson before the collapse.  Coming out after the fact, openly admitting a bias and then spouting off stuff in a vague enough way to be impossible to dispute but also not providing anything concrete is useless click-baiting. 

I've lost interest in the Leafs and it took a hell of a lot to get me to that point.  But I lost interest in the Toronto sports media long before that.  Adding more of this useless garbage only pushes me farther away from that.  I have been cable free for a few years now and use NHL Gamecenter with a US account to watch Leafs games.  I don't watch TSN.  I don't go to their website anymore, I'm completely done with the shoddy "journalism" around the Leafs. 

I'm happy to read blogs and catch the stories through those and the message board but I'm just tired of not only real negativity but contrived stories to keep people who have long since become irrelevant in the sporting world relevant.

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2015/3/14/8214559/in-defence-of-nazem-kadri

5 out 7 CDN teams chasing playoffs for the first time in how long (ever?) but let's get another opinion piece on what's wrong with the Leafs. I wish more Leaf fans were like you L K - the media is still the way it is because most Leaf fans get some sort of sick validation from it and click click click
 
Theyre just giving the people what they want. Not just Leafs fans but people who love to hate them, like yourself. Maybe if YOU stop click click clicking they'll write about some teams nobody cares about.
 
TML fan said:
Theyre just giving the people what they want. Not just Leafs fans but people who love to hate them, like yourself. Maybe if YOU stop click click clicking they'll write about some teams nobody cares about.

You're kidding yourself if you think I read any of that garbage
 

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