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Komarov: Sell or Keep?

73 Hits, 18 takeaways, major penalty-killer. Babysits Kadri.  <$3 million.  Why can't we have nice things?
 
I'm a massive fan of Komarov. In fact for a while in those really lean tough to watch years he was probably a favourite player just because of the way he went about things and the heart and effort he brought every night. He even had more of a skilled upside than you'd expect at times.

But I love the Leafs more and you have to do what is in the best long term interests of the Leafs, so probably you move him and then you can always talk to him again in the summer if needs be similar to the likes of Winnik. I think he'll get a better deal elsewhere as a UFA than I'd be willing to give him now, but that may change should others move on also (Bozak, JVR primarily)
 
Arn said:
I'm a massive fan of Komarov. In fact for a while in those really lean tough to watch years he was probably a favourite player just because of the way he went about things and the heart and effort he brought every night. He even had more of a skilled upside than you'd expect at times.

But I love the Leafs more and you have to do what is in the best long term interests of the Leafs, so probably you move him and then you can always talk to him again in the summer if needs be similar to the likes of Winnik. I think he'll get a better deal elsewhere as a UFA than I'd be willing to give him now, but that may change should others move on also (Bozak, JVR primarily)

Winnik also seems like a perfect comparison in terms of return. He returned a 2nd and a 4th the first time(and Zach Sill) and a 2nd and Connor Carrick the second time(while eating the Laich contract). You have to figure Komarov could fetch at least that. More if he's as valuable as some seem to think.
 
I would say that's fair - I can definitely see someone potentially offering a little more than you may normally expect due to "intangibles" and "grit" that would associated with the type of player Komarov is
 
Arn said:
I would say that's fair - I can definitely see someone potentially offering a little more than you may normally expect due to "intangibles" and "grit" that would associated with the type of player Komarov is

The guy is a literal freight train!
 
For me, of Komarov, JVR and Bozak, it is easiest to decide to get rid of Komarov.  Slide in Leivo and I don?t see the team losing much.  By the same token, I don?t see much coming back for him.  If I were an opposing GM, I wouldn?t want to give up more than a 4th or maybe a 3rd.  In other words, trading him won?t make much of a difference either way. Still, you might as well if you can.
 
princedpw said:
By the same token, I don?t see much coming back for him.  If I were an opposing GM, I wouldn?t want to give up more than a 4th or maybe a 3rd.  In other words, trading him won?t make much of a difference either way. Still, you might as well if you can.

For a little bit of context, guys like Eric Gelinas, Shane Prince and Mike Weber all got 3rd round picks at the '16 deadline. Komarov's no star but he's a PK'ing regular with some offensive ability. He's a step above 6/7 defensemen and fringe-y NHL forwards.
 
Nik the Trik said:
For a little bit of context, guys like Eric Gelinas, Shane Prince and Mike Weber all got 3rd round picks at the '16 deadline. Komarov's no star but he's a PK'ing regular with some offensive ability. He's a step above 6/7 defensemen and fringe-y NHL forwards.

Yeah. As was pointed out earlier in this thread, look at what Winnik returned - both as a pending UFA and when signed for an additional season. I'd say that's your baseline for a return on Komarov.
 
bustaheims said:
Nik the Trik said:
For a little bit of context, guys like Eric Gelinas, Shane Prince and Mike Weber all got 3rd round picks at the '16 deadline. Komarov's no star but he's a PK'ing regular with some offensive ability. He's a step above 6/7 defensemen and fringe-y NHL forwards.

Yeah. As was pointed out earlier in this thread, look at what Winnik returned - both as a pending UFA and when signed for an additional season. I'd say that's your baseline for a return on Komarov.

Komarov's point production lately has been significantly higher than Winnik's.

 
Nik the Trik said:
princedpw said:
By the same token, I don?t see much coming back for him.  If I were an opposing GM, I wouldn?t want to give up more than a 4th or maybe a 3rd.  In other words, trading him won?t make much of a difference either way. Still, you might as well if you can.

For a little bit of context, guys like Eric Gelinas, Shane Prince and Mike Weber all got 3rd round picks at the '16 deadline. Komarov's no star but he's a PK'ing regular with some offensive ability. He's a step above 6/7 defensemen and fringe-y NHL forwards.

On the other side of the coin Brian Boyle cost us a 2nd round pick and Byron Froese (pending UFA).  Without a doubt, Komarov for a 3rd round pick seems rather low but I don't think he'd garner more than Boyle did last year.  Two 2nd round picks was suggested earlier and I think that is a pipe-dream.  If that offer is on the table somewhere, I don't hesitate to trade Komarov despite the amount I've said "keep" in this thread.
 
I like Boyle, but I'd say Komarov absolutely has more value than he does. Ideally, Boyle is a teams 4th line centre who isn't quick enough to kill penalties anymore. Komarov's been a part of a teams shutdown line since the start of last season and plays a large role on the PK.
 
Arn said:
I feel this is meme-worthy
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I'm in the sell camp, I love Uncle Leo, but I don't think that what he brings to the team will mean the difference between cup or no cup.
 
Coco-puffs said:
On the other side of the coin Brian Boyle cost us a 2nd round pick and Byron Froese (pending UFA).  Without a doubt, Komarov for a 3rd round pick seems rather low but I don't think he'd garner more than Boyle did last year.  Two 2nd round picks was suggested earlier and I think that is a pipe-dream.  If that offer is on the table somewhere, I don't hesitate to trade Komarov despite the amount I've said "keep" in this thread.

In his last three years seasons, Komarov racked up around 450 penalty minutes while scoring at a .45 ppg pace. Comparatively, Boyle played less on the PK(in more games) and scored at a significantly lower pace(.30).

I don't exactly know what the offer would be but I think a pretty compelling case can be made that Komarov is more valuable than Boyle.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Coco-puffs said:
On the other side of the coin Brian Boyle cost us a 2nd round pick and Byron Froese (pending UFA).  Without a doubt, Komarov for a 3rd round pick seems rather low but I don't think he'd garner more than Boyle did last year.  Two 2nd round picks was suggested earlier and I think that is a pipe-dream.  If that offer is on the table somewhere, I don't hesitate to trade Komarov despite the amount I've said "keep" in this thread.

In his last three years seasons, Komarov racked up around 450 penalty minutes while scoring at a .45 ppg pace. Comparatively, Boyle played less on the PK(in more games) and scored at a significantly lower pace(.30).

I don't exactly know what the offer would be but I think a pretty compelling case can be made that Komarov is more valuable than Boyle.

And I've got Winnik at .29ppg since beginning of 2015-2016 during regular season games.

With the lovely user experience/ease of use of nhl.com stats, I'm having trouble getting his PK time, but I imagine it's not as significant as Komarov's.

I think Komarov is a significantly more valuable piece than either Winnik or Boyle.
 
Ok... Maybe a 2nd then?  Certainly, I'll take it if someone is offering it.

I guess I don't appreciate what Komorov brings to the table all that well and he seems so replaceable here via fringe NHLers that I'm wondering who is going to pony up for him ...
 
Frank E said:
And I've got Winnik at .29ppg since beginning of 2015-2016 during regular season games.

With the lovely user experience/ease of use of nhl.com stats, I'm having trouble getting his PK time, but I imagine it's not as significant as Komarov's.

I think Komarov is a significantly more valuable piece than either Winnik or Boyle.

If you want to quickly see someone's PK time, CBS lists it on their player page.
 

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