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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
They really did fall apart after that, didn't they?

Not really. I mean, yes, their record went to crap from that point, but, their play was already trending downwards. What losing Bolland did was exacerbate things because Carlyle decided McClement and only McClement could take over his spot on the 3rd line, and that he has to play 16+ minutes a night.
 
Airplane wifi is terribly slow. Is it possible for the Leafs drop out of the playoffs tonight? Or do they hold off for the Caps game, which has a former Leaf who hasn't yet got his inevitable goal against?

I was listening to the Dangle podcast on the last flight. Described Buffalo as a team with a horrific differentials, no offense, and lots of knuckle draggers wasting pretty excellent goaltending... Ring a bell? (not tonight -- 4 goals, Reimer!? But in general)
 
Priceless! ;D
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#1PilarFan said:
Also, didn't you rock the PAQ tag way back in the day? My memory might be off, that was a long long time ago.

You might be thinking of PG. I wasn't one of the paq folk.
 
mr grieves said:
Airplane wifi is terribly slow. Is it possible for the Leafs drop out of the playoffs tonight? Or do they hold off for the Caps game, which has a former Leaf who hasn't yet got his inevitable goal against?

A regulation loss puts the Leafs behind the Canes and out of the playoffs.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
Potvin29 said:
One of the worst parts of all this is that when Carlyle eventually gets fired his hands will be all over losing two of our best, most consistent forwards.

And his influence is all over the team's worst contract, as well.

It's scary how much damage a coach has done to this franchise. A freaking coach.

Well, the good news is they were pretty brutal before Carlyle too.

And, I loved Grabbo as much as anyone, but if losing Mikhail Grabovski is a death knell to your franchise, your franchise blows.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
Potvin29 said:
One of the worst parts of all this is that when Carlyle eventually gets fired his hands will be all over losing two of our best, most consistent forwards.

And his influence is all over the team's worst contract, as well.

It's scary how much damage a coach has done to this franchise. A freaking coach.

And pretty much all the guys they got rid of/let go are doing much better elsewhere (maybe except Komisarek).
 
bustaheims said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
They really did fall apart after that, didn't they?

Not really. I mean, yes, their record went to crap from that point, but, their play was already trending downwards. What losing Bolland did was exacerbate things because Carlyle decided McClement and only McClement could take over his spot on the 3rd line, and that he has to play 16+ minutes a night.

Yeah. It's one thing to play in a four line league with 9 forwards, but it's something else entirely -- or maybe just the most disturbing extension of the monstrous logic -- to throw away the majority of a period with a center that provides absolutely no offense.
 
bustaheims said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
They really did fall apart after that, didn't they?

Not really. I mean, yes, their record went to crap from that point, but, their play was already trending downwards. What losing Bolland did was exacerbate things because Carlyle decided McClement and only McClement could take over his spot on the 3rd line, and that he has to play 16+ minutes a night.

I guess the consensus is that we've been crap all the way back to March 1 or so, with an anomaly in the playoffs.
 
Bonsixx said:
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
Potvin29 said:
One of the worst parts of all this is that when Carlyle eventually gets fired his hands will be all over losing two of our best, most consistent forwards.

And his influence is all over the team's worst contract, as well.

It's scary how much damage a coach has done to this franchise. A freaking coach.

Well, the good news is they were pretty brutal before Carlyle too.

And, I loved Grabbo as much as anyone, but if losing Mikhail Grabovski is a death knell to your franchise, your franchise blows.

No one is saying it's a death knell, but it's a significant loss, coupled with MacArthur.  Those two stay and some other moves probably aren't made, either.  Those two were very strong contributors.
 

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