Leafs offer for Bernier.......Or Not!
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Redleaf
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Zee said:
Oh boy. Which one? Which one? Rask or Pogge?...... errr, I mean Scrivens or Riemer? That could be a challenge, even if one out plays the other this season by a country mile. I wouldn't want to have to make that decision to aquire Bernier. He may turn out to be the worst of the three in 3-4 years time. I'm gonna guess that if the Leafs go out and get another tender, he will be a proven veteran with a lengthy track record.
Bernier Still Hoping to Be Traded
Following the Kings run to the Stanley Cup last spring, former first round pick Jonathan Bernier asked to be traded. GM Dean Lombardi spoke to several teams regarding Bernier, but the combination of not getting what he wanted along with Jonathan Quick?s back injury, led to the team putting a Bernier trade on the back burner.
For now Bernier is in a holding pattern, at least until Luongo gets moved. Sources close to Bernier tell me they believe he will eventually be traded but it?s unlikely to happen until after the Vancouver situation is resolved. Many believe Canucks GM Mike Gillis will trade Luongo sooner than later. Then again with the way Luongo is playing he might be better off keeping him for the time being.
With injuries to Matt Greene and Willie Mitchell word is Lombardi is searching for a top four D-man. He went after Wade Redden before the Blues snatched him up and you won?t find find too many teams willing to give up a top 4 D-man right now.
Los Angeles is almost exclusively relying on Drew Doughty and Rob Scuderi on a nightly basis.
Lombardi has indicated to Bernier?s camp that he will give him a chance to play elsewhere. There is a sentimental attachment here as Bernier was the first draft pick Lombardi made as Kings GM in 2006. Still with that said, Bernier is the Kings only real major asset they?re willing to part with.
The Toronto maple leafs are certainly an option should they fail to land Luongo in a trade. Lombardi has indicated privately there?s a specific player on the Maple Leafs roster he wants in return for Bernier. While he won?t reveal who the player is, it?s safe to suggest Toronto isn?t willing to part with him, at least for now.
Other teams such as Tampa Bay, Columbus, and New Jersey have kicked the tires on Bernier at one time or another. New Jersey GM Lou Lamiorello would love to get his hands on Bernier with the idea of replacing Martin Brodeur in a few years. The Devils ended up signing both Brodeur and Johan Hedberg to two-year deals last summer.
Bernier is a restricted free agent at the end of this season.
If he's interested in a top 4 dman and he was interested in Redden, then he'd be looking for an offensive top 4 dman. After Doughty, they do seem to leave something to be desired in an experienced, proven dman to put up points.
He's probably asked for Gardiner (no chance I'd give up Gardiner for Bernier - and Gardiner isn't experienced/proven/defensively solid yet).
I'm not that interested in Bernier but saw that tidbit that might be of interest.
Following the Kings run to the Stanley Cup last spring, former first round pick Jonathan Bernier asked to be traded. GM Dean Lombardi spoke to several teams regarding Bernier, but the combination of not getting what he wanted along with Jonathan Quick?s back injury, led to the team putting a Bernier trade on the back burner.
For now Bernier is in a holding pattern, at least until Luongo gets moved. Sources close to Bernier tell me they believe he will eventually be traded but it?s unlikely to happen until after the Vancouver situation is resolved. Many believe Canucks GM Mike Gillis will trade Luongo sooner than later. Then again with the way Luongo is playing he might be better off keeping him for the time being.
With injuries to Matt Greene and Willie Mitchell word is Lombardi is searching for a top four D-man. He went after Wade Redden before the Blues snatched him up and you won?t find find too many teams willing to give up a top 4 D-man right now.
Los Angeles is almost exclusively relying on Drew Doughty and Rob Scuderi on a nightly basis.
Lombardi has indicated to Bernier?s camp that he will give him a chance to play elsewhere. There is a sentimental attachment here as Bernier was the first draft pick Lombardi made as Kings GM in 2006. Still with that said, Bernier is the Kings only real major asset they?re willing to part with.
The Toronto maple leafs are certainly an option should they fail to land Luongo in a trade. Lombardi has indicated privately there?s a specific player on the Maple Leafs roster he wants in return for Bernier. While he won?t reveal who the player is, it?s safe to suggest Toronto isn?t willing to part with him, at least for now.
Other teams such as Tampa Bay, Columbus, and New Jersey have kicked the tires on Bernier at one time or another. New Jersey GM Lou Lamiorello would love to get his hands on Bernier with the idea of replacing Martin Brodeur in a few years. The Devils ended up signing both Brodeur and Johan Hedberg to two-year deals last summer.
Bernier is a restricted free agent at the end of this season.
If he's interested in a top 4 dman and he was interested in Redden, then he'd be looking for an offensive top 4 dman. After Doughty, they do seem to leave something to be desired in an experienced, proven dman to put up points.
He's probably asked for Gardiner (no chance I'd give up Gardiner for Bernier - and Gardiner isn't experienced/proven/defensively solid yet).
I'm not that interested in Bernier but saw that tidbit that might be of interest.
bustaheims
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There was a rumour at one point that Lombardi was asking for Frattin and a pick for Bernier. I wouldn't do that either.
TML fan said:
Gets rid of a dicey contract.
The way Carlyle has been playing him, Phaneuf/Kostka (one on LHS), Gunnarsson (LHS) are ahead of him and Gardiner will take a LHS spot in the top 4 long term.
So you've got a $3.9 mil/yr cap hit fourth in your dman depth chart on the LHS long term.
I never cared for Burke's re-signing of Liles at the price and term he did.
Over the next couple of years, if they needed a UFA dman, there are some still unsigned.
If Kostka stays in the top 4, he's a UFA this summer - they'll have to pay him to keep him.
Liles is 32 now. He'll be 34+ before they're contending so he's an expendable spare part in my opinion IF you can find someone to take his contract.
Liles contributes to the mobility of the back end. The Leafs are pretty much slugs without him back there, and Gardiner has a long way to go to prove he's even as defensively competent as Liles is.
Plus, I doubt Phaneuf will stay on the left side forever. Depending on what happens with Komisarek when his contract is up, or what the Leafs do with Franson, Phaneuf might have to move back to the right side at some point. Plus we have no idea that Kostka is going to stick around. We've seen guys play over their heads before and Kostka has a long way to go to prove, to anyone I think, that he truly belongs in the NHL, let alone in the top 4.
No, without a legitimate backup plan, I wouldn't be so eager to move Liles.
Plus, I doubt Phaneuf will stay on the left side forever. Depending on what happens with Komisarek when his contract is up, or what the Leafs do with Franson, Phaneuf might have to move back to the right side at some point. Plus we have no idea that Kostka is going to stick around. We've seen guys play over their heads before and Kostka has a long way to go to prove, to anyone I think, that he truly belongs in the NHL, let alone in the top 4.
No, without a legitimate backup plan, I wouldn't be so eager to move Liles.
GhostofPotvin29
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cw said:
Do you know if that salary is out of whack for most comparable 3-4 defensemen in the league?
dappleganger
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Has Bernier done anything to suggest he'd be the answer for the Leafs in net? Has he done anything to suggest he'd be any better than the guys already here?
That's the questions I ask. I don't know. Maybe someone has more knowledge on the subject.
Shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic so to speak.
That's the questions I ask. I don't know. Maybe someone has more knowledge on the subject.
Shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic so to speak.
dappleganger
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Nik Pollock said:
Yeah, I'd take Bernier over Scrivens. I think the interest in Bernier is more due to how we over value potential. He hasn't done anything at the NHL level except possibly regress.