Leafs Playoffs - Casual Fan Edition

[rdowdall]

No need to talk down to people, and if someone does, consider their opinion invalidated.

I don't necessarily disagree but I don't think that's any sort of standard you can have for a relatively open message board. All of the mods/staff here are doing this on a volunteer basis and they're doing their best to uphold what are pretty clear cut rules. I don't think it would be fair to ask them to ensure every post is sufficiently respectful or tonally friendly or whatever. Not only because that's a subjective concept but also because my bet is everyone would have a floating standard based on whether or not they agreed with a post.

If you think a poster is too dismissive or rude or whatever, there is an ignore function. I really don't see how people making liberal use of that wouldn't entirely solve the issue here. If someone doesn't like how I, or anyone else, posts...put me or whoever on ignore.

I didn't mean the mods should do it. I meant if someone is biligerent to a poster, that poster could just ignore the jerky part or the entire post of the othe

"Why didn't you counter my argument?"

"Cause you were a dick about it."

And my seven year old is yelling at me for yelling at the tv. Bedtime for one of us!

I'm sure she'll tell you the score in the morning.

Bill has left the building! For bed.

Bill, I'm sure your daughter doesn't call you that.  I think it's still you.

 

[herman]

How come you have an outdoor bed, Bill?

 

[rdowdall]

I liked the idea of having a low key, fan boy, all positive thread.

It would be great if this was that thread.

I think the problem is an education one.

Internet forums are just like S&M.  You need a safe word.  Now in the early days of the internet, that safe word was Hitler.  Basically an argument would go on until one person called the other person Hitler, and then the argument was over. 

So you see, we don't need a special forum, we just need a code word which means "I'm done".   

 

[rdowdall]

How come you have an outdoor bed, Bill?

Yeah Bill!!!!  There are a lot of holes in your story here.

 

[Bill_Berg]

How come you have an outdoor bed, Bill?

Have you checked the temperature? Summer is back!

 

[Kin]

I didn't mean the mods should do it. I meant if someone is biligerent to a poster, that poster could just ignore the jerky part or the entire post of the othe

"Why didn't you counter my argument?"

"Cause you were a dick about it."

Right, no, I agree. This should be able to be resolved by people using either the ignore function the board provides or being mature enough to just personally ignore posts they don't like.

 

[herman]

How come you have an outdoor bed, Bill?

Have you checked the temperature? Summer is back!

It's still rainy season. Tarp up!

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Everybody in good spirits after a win now? Everybody get what they wanted to off their chest? Great.

Let's turn this thread back to what it's original purpose was, which is "to vent about the team, and who should or shouldn't play, based on the ol' fashioned eye test, please post here". Nobody here has any objections to the use of this thread for that reason. I think it's a great idea quite frankly.

If anyone wants to carry on the conversation that this thread has turned into today... feel free to do it via PM to whichever members of the moderation/admin team you'd like.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I'll start: Hainsey has been fantastic the past couple of games, even if his advanced numbers are dogpoo in them. The whole team, but him in particular, have been playing Pastrnak a lot more physically than they did earlier in the series and it's been a massive improvement.

 

[Bill_Berg]

I gotta say Polak has looked serviceable too. Still prefer Johnsson to Komarov though.

 

[Kin]

I'll start: Hainsey has been fantastic the past couple of games, even if his advanced numbers are dogpoo in them. The whole team, but him in particular, have been playing Pastrnak a lot more physically than they did earlier in the series and it's been a massive improvement.

In what I'm sure is a logical fallacy, I'll say that we have pretty good evidence reason to think that what separates the Leafs from a Championship team isn't the difference between Ron Hainsey and whoever.

 

[princedpw]

Are we allowed to mention save percentage in this thread because I think the leafs have a strong chance whenever their save percentage is .970 or higher.

 

[Strangelove]

I'll start: Hainsey has been fantastic the past couple of games, even if his advanced numbers are dogpoo in them. The whole team, but him in particular, have been playing Pastrnak a lot more physically than they did earlier in the series and it's been a massive improvement.

He's been better at clearing the front of the net but man does he ever give the puck away a ton. He seems to be more effective with less ice-time though. Old man needs his rest.

 

[Bender]

Are we allowed to mention save percentage in this thread because I think the leafs have a strong chance whenever their save percentage is .970 or higher.

No, only +/- allowed! I think we have a strong chance when Andersen allows less goals than Rask.

 

[herman]

Are we allowed to mention save percentage in this thread because I think the leafs have a strong chance whenever their save percentage is .970 or higher.

No, only +/- allowed! I think we have a strong chance when Andersen allows less goals than Rask.

 

[hockeyfan1]

If anyone wants to  carry on the conversation that this thread has turned into today...feel free to do it via PM to whichever members of the moderation/admin team you'd like.

Which is what I did and stated in part:

"...it's not that people are offended by what one says but how it is said, phrased, and deliberately thrown in general to a poster's face, as if whatever the poster is saying either amounts to nothing or that the person is made to look and feel dumbed down.

...Don't get me wrong, there have been some very good and wonderful posters around that make this site all the better, without fear of reprisal or severe talkback.  Unfortunately, there are a few who've managed to overpower the good conversationists out there, and thus spoil it for the many by the few.).

If TMLfans is to become a more inviting and less devisive site, then let the people who wish to post, write, and discuss subject matters differently, to engage and be involved without fear of verbal retribution, put downs, or even verbal 'bullying' by those who choose to sound superior over others.

Perhaps there is a way to get around and for one to administer their complaints should the need necessitate -- the "Report to Moderator" button.  I have never used it, for the life of me, I don't know why.  Maybe only once and that was for something different.  If you could politely remind the posters of that button, and should someone need to use it to lodge a complaint, etc., that you moderators will look into it and respond to the poster via personal message.  That is probably the best way to go about it.

Pressing the "Ignore" button that is simple to do, but not when someone gives one a verbal putdown or brushback, however we may call it.  In this case, the "Report to Moderator" would serve it's purpose more fruitfully."

 

[Mr. Leaf]

I gotta say Polak has looked serviceable too. Still prefer Johnsson to Komarov though.

I agree about Polak.  I love his physicality and it seems like he is getting a lot of shots on net from the point.

 

[Arn]

I think the main reason readership/comments are disappearing is because message boards themselves are archaic, not because of the types of discussions happening on this board. I'm glad that some people have stuck around, but not surprised that many haven't.

This is the key point for me. This is one of only 2 boards that I would use that is still relatively active. For example the first hockey board I ever used was for my local Belfast Giants, it was hugely active but Facebook and Twitter have taken over and in fact the forum on it has had about 6 posts in the last 4 years now. This one has survived in spite of those outside influences and changes.

Personally as someone living 3250 miles away and often watching the games at midnight at home on my own the GDTs have been my main reason for using this site. I enjoy having a bit of "company" to shoot the shit with as the game goes on. On occasion I pop into other sections of the site (the MLB/Jays section especially for similar reasons). If the Leafs sign someone I'll have a look on the thread to get some opinions/articles/links. But after a while I tend to check out of the thread when I get bored of it.

I think the site is what you make it and yes I will freely admit I read some poster's posts more than I read others' or certainly will maybe read some in more depth and scan over other posts.

As for this thread itself, I like the idea of having a more conversational Game Day Thread kind of atmosphere. But I do fear that just saying things like "Polak is class" then banning people from using certain ways to quantify why they think that is going to just lead to different kinds of shouting matches.

 

[MadMonk]

I haven't posted in over ten years or so.  Only reason for my absence was pure laziness after forgetting my password and not wanting to set up a new one.

I enjoy the banter here and it doesn't really seem to get too personal in my mind but like everything else on the internet, it's hard to sense others emotion and sarcasm. When compared to any FB or YouTube comments you might decide to read, this site feels like sunny day at the park. 

You all seem like decent, knowledgeable folk.  Nothing really needs changing, in my mind.

Go Leafs Go!!!!!

 

[cabber24]

Some posters simply aren't as vested as others and instead of arguing their point to death they give up. Not everyone cares or has the time to go back and forth 30 times. So at the end of the day you feel like you lost the argument or your point gets thrown out and it feels kind of shitty that this ALWAYS happens here.