Leafs trade Kadri+ to Colorado for Barrie+

[herman]

I debated internally the same thing. Muzzin brings balance to our D group.
The downside is his age. I don't want to spend a big UFA extension on a defensive Stanley Cup champion at 30+ years old who already plays a rough and tumble style on the left side.

On the flip side, the last time the Leafs had a right shot defenseman who could sit reasonably comfortably at the top of the depth chart was... Bryan McCabe. This is why Lou pulled the trigger on Zaitsev for term, because RD are so hard to find. Unfortunately, Zaitsev didn't work out the way we were using him here. Barrie, on the other hand, is Rielly on the other side of the ice and has played those top minutes. We have an opportunity to extend him let's say 6x7M in January and still be getting a lot of his good years left and give our weaker side more time to grow (or find new blood). He is already well aware that this team fits his playstyle, which shouldn't wear out as easily.

You mean right-side defenseman? McCabe is a left-hand shot.

Haha, oops. Does this accidentally prove my point?

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/TheOakLeafs/status/1145839675178979330

 

[rdowdall]

https://twitter.com/TheOakLeafs/status/1145839675178979330

I'll show you pointing.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

It hasn't really been talked about much, but Barrie is going to have a massive effect on our powerplay. That's one area where he's a significant upgrade over Gardiner (and even maybe Rielly). Over the past 2 seasons he's 3rd among defencemen in powerplay points with 55 in 146 games. Just 2 points behind Yandle for second and Yandle played 18 more games. Rielly is 8th in that stat with 46 PP points in 158 games. Gardiner has just 20 PP points in 144 games. Obviously last season he played on a crappy unit but still aside from zone entries he never really excelled on the powerplay.

I'd go back to maybe splitting things up. Use Tavares-Marner-Rielly on one unit and Matthews-Nylander-Barrie on the other.

 

[Guilt Trip]

It hasn't really been talked about much, but Barrie is going to have a massive effect on our powerplay. That's one area where he's a significant upgrade over Gardiner (and even maybe Rielly). Over the past 2 seasons he's 3rd among defencemen in powerplay points with 55 in 146 games. Just 2 points behind Yandle for second and Yandle played 18 more games. Rielly is 8th in that stat with 46 PP points in 158 games. Gardiner has just 20 PP points in 144 games. Obviously last season he played on a crappy unit but still aside from zone entries he never really excelled on the powerplay.

I'd go back to maybe splitting things up. Use Tavares-Marner-Rielly on one unit and Matthews-Nylander-Barrie on the other.

He does def give us options. Throw Spezza in there as well on the 2nd PP unit. Should be interesting.

 

[Coco-puffs]

It hasn't really been talked about much, but Barrie is going to have a massive effect on our powerplay. That's one area where he's a significant upgrade over Gardiner (and even maybe Rielly). Over the past 2 seasons he's 3rd among defencemen in powerplay points with 55 in 146 games. Just 2 points behind Yandle for second and Yandle played 18 more games. Rielly is 8th in that stat with 46 PP points in 158 games. Gardiner has just 20 PP points in 144 games. Obviously last season he played on a crappy unit but still aside from zone entries he never really excelled on the powerplay.

I'd go back to maybe splitting things up. Use Tavares-Marner-Rielly on one unit and Matthews-Nylander-Barrie on the other.

If they are going to split the minutes evenly then ya, maybe spread it around anyways.  I'd still prefer to see a more top-heavy 1st unit that goes through Marner, and a 2nd unit that goes through Spezza with Nylander as more of a shooter (mirror image PP setup... Spezza, on his off wing, looking royal-road to Nylander)

Tavares
Matthews-Mango-Marner
Rielly

Kapanen
Spezza-Kerfoot/Moore-Nylander
Barrie

 

[ZBBM]

Does Barrie kill penalties?  Does Kerfoot?

For that matter, do any Leafs?* 


* against certain New England based teams

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Does Barrie kill penalties?  Does Kerfoot?

For that matter, do any Leafs?* 


* against certain New England based teams

Pretty sure it was decided during the playoffs that anyone can teach a monkey to kill penalties. It requires no skill whatsoever.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Does Barrie kill penalties?  Does Kerfoot?

For that matter, do any Leafs?* 


* against certain New England based teams

Spezza, Muzzin, Ceci, Kappy, Marner, Hyman, Moore, Johnsson could.

 

[Bullfrog]

From the article Ctb posted:

Between the two of them, Barrie is a much more effective transition player and brings even more offensive prowess than Gardiner. But for those fans who grew frustrated with Gardiner?s decision making in the defensive zone and risky play with the puck, buckle in because Barrie is about to take you on a wild ride. Gardiner?s defensive impact has been much stronger than Barrie?s over the past few seasons, and in fact Barrie?s defensive impact is around the 44th percentile in the NHL, while Gardiner?s is 56th, so that part is a downgrade.

;D I think Gardiner's defensive abilities are going to be finally appreciated. Hopefully Muzzin allows for Barrie to let loose on offense.

It'll be quite a change for Barrie to be on a second line with lesser competition. Could be a very good year for him.

 

[louisstamos]

It'll be quite a change for Barrie to be on a second line with lesser competition. Could be a very good year for him.

Isn't that what he was in Colorado, though?  Erik Johnson was the first pair RHD, no?

 

[Bullfrog]

You're probably right, but their ice time was almost identical except for the PP/SH split. Looks like the AVs ran the top two lines fairly evenly.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

You're probably right, but their ice time was almost identical except for the PP/SH split. Looks like the AVs ran the top two lines fairly evenly.

It was like Rielly/Gardiner here, they played pretty equal minutes but one was always getting the tougher assignments (Rielly/Johnson).

 

[cabber24]

I have been thinking about this Barrie trade. When I think about teams retaining the salary of a traded player it's because they want to get away from the burden of the contract. This certainly wasn't the case in the Barrie trade. We got an awesome player at half his cap hit. Has this happened before? I have seen it at the trade deadline but this seems pretty rare in the offseason.

Col's salary retention of $2.75M is the highest amongst active contracts. It feels like we found a way to go over the cap.

https://www.capfriendly.com/retained-salary-transactions

 

[Bullfrog]

I've been thinking about that, and it shows how much the Avs value Kadri (and his contract) if they retained $2.75M in salary for one year plus added Kerfoot.

 

[Deebo]

Kerfoot signed:

4 x 3.5M

per Dreger.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Kerfoot signed:

4 x 3.5M

per Dreger.

Same ball park as Johnsson/Kappy, seems fair. If anything I like this more than those ones since he's a C and seems to be a better defensive player.

 

[L K]

Kerfoot signed:

4 x 3.5M

per Dreger.

Same ball park as Johnsson/Kappy, seems fair. If anything I like this more than those ones since he's a C and seems to be a better defensive player.

Yeah, that's a really good deal there.  Happy to have all three locked up on good contracts.

 

[Bender]

Kerfoot signed:

4 x 3.5M

per Dreger.

Same ball park as Johnsson/Kappy, seems fair. If anything I like this more than those ones since he's a C and seems to be a better defensive player.

I wonder if Kerfoot at $3.5 as our 3C makes more sense that Kadri at $4.5 at 3C. Kerfoot appears to be better defensively and can chip in some points here and there. Kadri seemed to be miscast a bit in the 3C role. Hopefully we can somehow retain Barrie but I'm guessing that it'll be Rielly/Barrie as our marquee D with some cheaper mid-tier options. I don't think there's any way we keep Muzzin going forward into next season. 

 

[cabber24]

Kerfoot signed:

4 x 3.5M

per Dreger.

Same ball park as Johnsson/Kappy, seems fair. If anything I like this more than those ones since he's a C and seems to be a better defensive player.

I wonder if Kerfoot at $3.5 as our 3C makes more sense that Kadri at $4.5 at 3C. Kerfoot appears to be better defensively and can chip in some points here and there. Kadri seemed to be miscast a bit in the 3C role. Hopefully we can somehow retain Barrie but I'm guessing that it'll be Rielly/Barrie as our marquee D with some cheaper mid-tier options. I don't think there's any way we keep Muzzin going forward into next season.

To get Barrie, I am happy to downgrade from Kadri to Kerfoot. Who knows Kerfoot may be better suited for the role. Still kind of expensive for 3rd line C?