Mark Fraser
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Kin
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Eh. The whole system is fundamentally based on players either getting too much because they're unrestricted or too little because they're restricted. I don't know if salary arbitration for a 6th defenseman is where you draw your line in the sand on "honesty".
Rebel_1812
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caveman said:
the arbitrator sets a number. This isn't like baseball. The highest number they set was for weber.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Tied for the 2nd highest +/- among defencemen in the league last season. 1st in PIM. Second in hits. 15th in blocked shots. Those might not actually be the best stats to determine a players worth, but they're things arbitrators look at.
Floats like a Kadri said:
This has been mentioned elsewhere, but in case you didn't know the Leafs can't walk away from Fraser's contract if the arbitrator awards him less than $3.5mil. So the team will be stuck with whatever he gets.
bustaheims
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Green Leaf said:
Arbitration awards can only be for 1 or 2 seasons, and the $3.5M number is based on AAV ( or cap hit, as people like to refer to it). Unless the cap triples, there is no world where Fraser is worth $3.5M per. $3.5M over 3 years, maybe, but I wouldn't commit to Fraser for multiple seasons. $3.5M per would be insanity.
bustaheims said:
I'd commit to Fraser for a bunch of years if it would reduce his cap hit. For example, I'd prefer $925 per year for 4 (or 7, ha ha) years as opposed to 1.5 for this year. Then you can shove him in the minors for no cost if you like. It's like paying the guy off to avoid having him whistle-blow on your current year cap space.
bustaheims said:
I'm assuming he meant $3.5mil over 3 years. Otherwise I think we just found out Cliff Fletcher's TMLfans handle.
princedpw said:
That's not a bad idea actually. And with his term he's unlikely to get claimed via waivers on the way down.
bustaheims
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Nik the Trik said:
Yup. The only trade restriction that exists in the CBA is with players in the 1st year of a matched offer sheet. Everyone else is fair game.
leafsjunkie
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Is his arbitration hearing today?
Corn Flake
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Busty... It's still baseball style abritration, correct? Arbitrator picks one number or the other, not something in between?
bustaheims
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Corn Flake said:
I'm pretty sure the arbitrator can find a spot in between, but, I'm not 100% sure. I'll check the relevant sections of the CBA and get back to you.
EDIT: I can't find anything in the CBA that specifies things either way, and, in the absence of that, my guess is the arbitrator pretty much has free reign in determining the salary he awards.
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CarltonTheBear said:
I know, I just am tired of seeing people get overpaid. If's it's more then 1.1 max I really hope nonis turns around and deals him to the west coast. We have more important players to be fitting into our cap atm then a 4th liner we could theoretically replace quite easily. I like how he played and his ability to lay everything he had on the line but money talks nowadays more then talent in some cases. He could price himself onto a new team. Players I would hope keep that in mind at least a little bit during contract talks.