Morgan Rielly

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

So having the farm in the city will help with some cap juggling, having players come up and down only on the day of games and then being sent back after the game.

Nonis mentioned last night that when players are demoted/promoted they actually have to report and the teams have to show proof, all being in Toronto should be easier.

 

[Leafaholic99]

So having the farm in the city will help with some cap juggling, having players come up and down only on the day of games and then being sent back after the game.

Nonis mentioned last night that when players are demoted/promoted they actually have to report and the teams have to show proof, all being in Toronto should be easier.

and especially with the ACC and Ricoh so close to each other, makes it that much easier for players to report back and forth to the Leafs and Marlies.

 

[bustaheims]

Nonis mentioned last night that when players are demoted/promoted they actually have to report and the teams have to show proof, all being in Toronto should be easier.

When both teams are playing at home, yes, it'll be a little easier.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Is this similar to what the Blues did with Pietrangelo?

Yeah, it's pretty much exactly what the Blues did with him in his 2nd season after being drafted. I've made the comparison before.

 

[Bullfrog]

Ok, I see your point now. And that's definitely fair. I still go back to the belief that there's more players who have been hurt by being rushed than there are who have been hurt by being held back. Sample size plays into that a little bit though.

Yeah, and I tend to be of the opinion that guys who were "hurt" by being rushed tend to be guys who wouldn't have made it anyway but that's really just conjecture on all of our parts there.

Probably conjecture, ya, but that's always been my take on things too.

 

[Deebo]

Looks like they found the cap and roster space for him:

https://twitter.com/DavidAlter590/status/384715949540380672

David Alter ‏@DavidAlter590 16m
Morgan Rielly has made the Leafs.  Per Carlyle

 

[bustaheims]

Looks like they found the cap and roster space for him:

https://twitter.com/DavidAlter590/status/384715949540380672

David Alter ‏@DavidAlter590 16m
Morgan Rielly has made the Leafs.  Per Carlyle

Yeah, but it made their cap situation so tight that there's no room to recall anyone in case of a short-term injury or illness without demoting someone else. They currently have $65 833 in cap space, with only 18 healthy, not suspended skaters.

 

[Deebo]

Yeah, but it made their cap situation so tight that there's no room to recall anyone in case of a short-term injury or illness without demoting someone else. They currently have $65 833 in cap space, with only 18 healthy, not suspended skaters.

The situation wouldn't have been tangibly different with Liles on the roster instead.

 

[Corn Flake]

Someone else mentioned it elsewhere, but if injury call-ups are on relatively cheap contracts, you're only paying them their daily rate times however many days they are on the roster.

Someone mentioned it without actually having the facts backing them up.

Late to this but.. ouch.

 

[Deebo]

I will be disappointed if he gets sent back to junior.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

He's better than I thought he was.

 

[Bullfrog]

Though only a short sample, from what I've seen, he's ready for a spot. Yes, there will be a lot of growing pains, but he's definitely got the tools. I really doubt he benefits much from playing in junior.

 

[Redleaf]

I don't see any way he doesn't stay with the Leafs for the entire year. Maybe he'll be loaned to the world junior team, but I doubt it.

 

[Peter D.]

I thought Rielly's learning curve would be much greater than it has been.  With the confidence he is getting and showing with each passing game, he is showing there is not much benefit to sending him down when he is proving he can play with the pros.

You can see his special talents.

 

[Jalili]

He's lived up to the hype. More than just his skill, I'm impressed by how sharp he is. Some guys have all the talent but don't have the IQ to match.

 

[Frank E]

He's lived up to the hype. More than just his skill, I'm impressed by how sharp he is. Some guys have all the talent but don't have the IQ to match.

Right now, I'd say Gardiner might be in that category....although, I didn't see the game last night.

From what I've seen of Rielly, his puck possession game reminds me of Kabs back in the day.

 

[Corn Flake]

He's lived up to the hype. More than just his skill, I'm impressed by how sharp he is. Some guys have all the talent but don't have the IQ to match.

Right now, I'd say Gardiner might be in that category....although, I didn't see the game last night.

From what I've seen of Rielly, his puck possession game reminds me of Kabs back in the day.

I would agree with this. I'm thinking the same about Gardiner. That deer-in-the-headlights thing tends to happen at times.  He played much better last night, took far less risks with the puck and positioning was better.  The question with him is can he build on that and continue to improve vs. what feels like a reset button every once in a while.

Rielly just seems to get exponentially better with every game. He's got the Kaberle puck skill but also has the stones to take risks and drive the net. He's careful when to do that too.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Let's all remember that we were saying these things about Gardiner when he was dominating in the 1st round last season.  Rielly has had 3 games.  I don't think his 3 games or Gardiner's start to the season changes much about either player right now.

 

[Bender]

Let's all remember that we were saying these things about Gardiner when he was dominating in the 1st round last season.  Rielly has had 3 games.  I don't think his 3 games or Gardiner's start to the season changes much about either player right now.

What would your standard opinion of Rielly be re: his start/play doesn't change much about him. Don't really understand what you're getting at.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Let's all remember that we were saying these things about Gardiner when he was dominating in the 1st round last season.  Rielly has had 3 games.  I don't think his 3 games or Gardiner's start to the season changes much about either player right now.

What would your standard opinion of Rielly be re: his start/play doesn't change much about him. Don't really understand what you're getting at.

That he's still a very young player that could easily and quickly take 2 steps backwards before too long and having some of the same concerns expressed about him as are expressed about Gardiner, despite his having dominated play for stretches.

EDIT: And maybe that all goes without saying - but it's there now and can never be unsaid.