bustaheims
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CarltonTheBear said:
Yup, he is, though, Tkachuk's rights were traded back to St Louis.
Nonis using depth to go shopping....
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Yup, he is, though, Tkachuk's rights were traded back to St Louis.
maplesyrup
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Busta, don't you think that at the time of those deals, a couple guys there might have been of the "same calibre/value" as Schenn?
maplesyrup
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bustaheims said:
Well, I guess I don't like those odds.
bustaheims
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Sarge said:
Not really, no. Most of them were much more green than Schenn. They were rookies or 2nd year guys with obvious holes in their game that, in a number of cases, see them out of the league or on the fringes of the league only 3 or 4 seasons later. There are no bluechip prospects in there, no top 10 picks or anything of that ilk being sent to the team trading the prominent UFA. They're depth guys, maybes, projects, 2nd tier prospects and the like.
bustaheims
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Sarge said:
It's not really all that surprising either, when you think about it. These are guys that really feel no connection to the team they're finishing their contract with, and, they've already living in a temporary residence, so, they're not established in the city in any meaningful way. Staying on with the team that traded for them or moving to another city doesn't present much of a difference to their immediate futures, so, it's in their best interests to put themselves and see what the best offer and the best fits available are - and, as we can see, more often than not, it's somewhere other than the team they most recently played for.
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bustaheims said:
I take a look at Bernier who the year before he was traded from SJ was what only 21? and had 15 goals in just 62 games and was a .50 pts/game player... Former 1st round pick with great size... I thought he was going to be a good one. Obviously, I was wrong. Still, he was one of those guys I thought might valued as much as Luke Schenn might be now.
bustaheims
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Sarge said:
Bernier still had a few flaws that have obviously lead to him not being in the league anymore. He had taken a step back by the time he was moved. Within a couple months of being traded to Buffalo, they moved him for a 2nd round pick and a 3rd round pick. I doubt too many people here would accept that in return for Schenn, and I know Burke wouldn't.
leafplasma
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Twitter a buzz with the latest rumour supposedly put out by the Edmonton Journal:
Jeff Carter and Jackets 1st for Schenn and Grabs
Jackets would never do that deal, ridiculous rumour.
Jeff Carter and Jackets 1st for Schenn and Grabs
Jackets would never do that deal, ridiculous rumour.
bustaheims
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leafplasma said:
There's so much wrong there, just so much.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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Buzz?
I see nobody of note saying this.
I see nobody of note saying this.
leafplasma
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WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Exactly, just do a search on twitter, lots of talk but from nobody of significance. I wonder if the Edmonton Journal really even truly stated this or that was made up as well.
bustaheims
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Something that occurred to me today - because of the Leafs' cap situation when Armstrong and Liles are activated off the IR, any deal that has the Leafs adding more than a nominal amount of cap would either have to go down the same day another deal that would balance that issue (or, after such a deal went down, if a purely cap space related trade is made) or no later than noon on the day before a game to allow for players to be placed on waivers with enough time to clear before the team's next game (depending on what moves the team makes to activate Armstrong and Liles - if they keep Kadri & Gardiner up, which they likely will, they could send them to Marlies to clear some cap space in the event of a trade they're not a part of).
hockeyfan1
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UPDATE: The general manager of the Toronto Maple Leafs has yet to make a blockbuster -- but not for lack of effort.
According to QMI Agency, Brian Burke is busting his caboose in the attempt to improve his club.
"He's trying. He's trying hard. He definitely wants to get bigger," a league executive said Thursday.
There's also the suggestion the Maple Leafs could be interested in Ryane Clowe of the San Jose Sharks. However, talk out of San Jose indicates the Sharks would be very reluctant to lose a top-six winger like Clowe.
Jeff Blair of the Globe and Mail suggests that would be the best course of action for general manager Brian Burke:
"... Burke doesn't need anyone to remind him that he needs to make a significant acquisition; that it makes no sense to go all-in with a head coach who hasn't had a sniff of the playoffs since he's been in Toronto and then sit back ... (Luke) Schenn and forward Nazem Kadri should most definitely be in play -- as should about 80 per cent of the roster and anybody with the AHL's Toronto Marlies ... There is a premium to be paid for being able to make a trade in advance of the league's Feb. 27 deadline and now is not the time to be shy ..."
A significant move by Burke before the end of January wouldn't come as any surprise. The Leafs have an excess of assets (ie. talented defensemen, young centermen) to move in exchange for the coveted big, top-six winger -- perhaps from the Anaheim Ducks. It will be a much larger shock if such a deal doesn't go down. And soon.
Source: ESPN
According to QMI Agency, Brian Burke is busting his caboose in the attempt to improve his club.
"He's trying. He's trying hard. He definitely wants to get bigger," a league executive said Thursday.
There's also the suggestion the Maple Leafs could be interested in Ryane Clowe of the San Jose Sharks. However, talk out of San Jose indicates the Sharks would be very reluctant to lose a top-six winger like Clowe.
Jeff Blair of the Globe and Mail suggests that would be the best course of action for general manager Brian Burke:
"... Burke doesn't need anyone to remind him that he needs to make a significant acquisition; that it makes no sense to go all-in with a head coach who hasn't had a sniff of the playoffs since he's been in Toronto and then sit back ... (Luke) Schenn and forward Nazem Kadri should most definitely be in play -- as should about 80 per cent of the roster and anybody with the AHL's Toronto Marlies ... There is a premium to be paid for being able to make a trade in advance of the league's Feb. 27 deadline and now is not the time to be shy ..."
A significant move by Burke before the end of January wouldn't come as any surprise. The Leafs have an excess of assets (ie. talented defensemen, young centermen) to move in exchange for the coveted big, top-six winger -- perhaps from the Anaheim Ducks. It will be a much larger shock if such a deal doesn't go down. And soon.
Source: ESPN
Britishbulldog
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bustaheims said:
I would think that of all the top centers out there, Carter is the most available. I just don't think that Columbus would throw in the possible 1st pick overall to unload him under ANY circumstance except a young franchise player coming back to Columbus.
Compared to Getzlaf, who admittedly is having a bad year, Carter is a better faceoff guy as far as I can tell. Getzlaf is bigger ofcourse at 6-4 220 compared to Carter at 6-3 200.
I would rather see the Leafs trade Connolly and MacArthur for Carter @ $5.27 and hope it works out then see Burke empty the cupboards of depth for a single high priced player like E. Staal @ $8.25 MIL.
Trading Schenn for a 2nd line winger would free up MacArthur as trade bait who is a decent offensive talent.
BlueWhiteBlood
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As much as all the rumours of actual deals that have been put on paper have been wrong sounding, Pierre LeBrun believes that Carter indeed may be on his way out of Columbus, because he really doesn't want to be there.
Meanwhile in Columbus, GM Scott Howson is expecting he'll be a very busy man in the next four weeks. Aside from the obvious rental players (players who will be UFAs on July 1) he?ll attempt to move, keep an eye on center Jeff Carter. Howson, we?re told, is willing to move Carter less than a year after acquiring him from the Flyers, in part because the player doesn?t want to be in Columbus. But can Howson find a taker for Carter?s contract? He?s in the first season of an 11-year, $58-million contract (cap hit $5.27 million).
Meanwhile in Columbus, GM Scott Howson is expecting he'll be a very busy man in the next four weeks. Aside from the obvious rental players (players who will be UFAs on July 1) he?ll attempt to move, keep an eye on center Jeff Carter. Howson, we?re told, is willing to move Carter less than a year after acquiring him from the Flyers, in part because the player doesn?t want to be in Columbus. But can Howson find a taker for Carter?s contract? He?s in the first season of an 11-year, $58-million contract (cap hit $5.27 million).
bustaheims
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DarrenDreger: A couple of sketchy trade rumours out there. Can tell you the Leafs, according to Burke have never discussed Nash trade..."Ever."
Corn Flake
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bustaheims said:
Sketchy. lol @ Watters. I'm going to start calling him Old Man Eklund.
Corn Flake
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It seems a number of media outlets have resorted to making up rumors and talking about how they might happen, basically like half the threads here.
The Star has a daily trade rumor evaluation thing going on and this morning on sportsnet I caught the end of a bunch of random trade proposals being made up by John shannon and some other guy. Shannon tabled Semin to Detroit and blabbed about it happening. Ummmmmmmmmmm.
They've all become eklunds.
The Star has a daily trade rumor evaluation thing going on and this morning on sportsnet I caught the end of a bunch of random trade proposals being made up by John shannon and some other guy. Shannon tabled Semin to Detroit and blabbed about it happening. Ummmmmmmmmmm.
They've all become eklunds.