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moon111 said:For most part, I don't have a problem with what the Leafs have done with the picks they did have.
But until you have scored a #1 superstar, you don't 'fix' the team, you let it flounder. Get the Yzerman,
then the rest. Leafs have a hole, fill it and never hit rock bottom.
Madferret said:CarltonTheBear said:Madferret said:I did - they retained half of his salary essentially buying that 2nd rounder. And made a lot of new friends by driving up the market price on 3rd line rentals apparently at the same time.
They bought a 4th rounder, not a 2nd. If you want to cover yourself at least claim that they could only get a 2016 2nd.
I'll admit they got more meaningless draft picks for Winnik than I thought they would - you got me.
Heroic Shrimp said:
hockeyfan1 said:Sean Burke?
Can expect the Maple Leafs to ask the Coyotes for permission to speak to Sean Burke after the season.
Nick Cotsonika @cotsonika
LRT: Brendan Shanahan and Sean Burke are tight.
Source: mynhltraderumours
Frank E said:So, speaking of the draft...it's obviously a long shot, but what if the Leafs get McDavid?
How does that affect the rebuild? He's likely to start with the team, and therefore beginning his ELC immediately. I would think that this fast forwards the rebuild somewhat over, say, drafting Strome.
CarltonTheBear said:Frank E said:So, speaking of the draft...it's obviously a long shot, but what if the Leafs get McDavid?
How does that affect the rebuild? He's likely to start with the team, and therefore beginning his ELC immediately. I would think that this fast forwards the rebuild somewhat over, say, drafting Strome.
To me the biggest thing that changes is Kessel. If we get McDavid then Phil isn't going anywhere. I'd still be looking at stripping away parts like Bozak and, well, Bozak, and the idea behind being patient with our non-McDavid prospects would still be the same. But it definitely fast-forwards our rebuild quite a bit, enough so that Phil would still be a very valuable contributor to the team when we're ready to compete.
CarltonTheBear said:Frank E said:So, speaking of the draft...it's obviously a long shot, but what if the Leafs get McDavid?
How does that affect the rebuild? He's likely to start with the team, and therefore beginning his ELC immediately. I would think that this fast forwards the rebuild somewhat over, say, drafting Strome.
To me the biggest thing that changes is Kessel. If we get McDavid then Phil isn't going anywhere. I'd still be looking at stripping away parts like Bozak and, well, Bozak, and the idea behind being patient with our non-McDavid prospects would still be the same. But it definitely fast-forwards our rebuild quite a bit, enough so that Phil would still be a very valuable contributor to the team when we're ready to compete.
Frank E said:When Phil is on his game, he's an elite playmaker that needs a better centre, but I'd rather spread out the offense of McDavid and Kessel over the 2 lines.
CarltonTheBear said:Frank E said:When Phil is on his game, he's an elite playmaker that needs a better centre, but I'd rather spread out the offense of McDavid and Kessel over the 2 lines.
Well I mean it all depends on how they would click in training camp and whatnot, but keeping them apart could have it's benefits. For starters we don't know how Leafs fans would react seeing a legit 1st line winger playing with a legit 1st line centre. All of our minds could explode.
LuncheonMeat said:CarltonTheBear said:Frank E said:So, speaking of the draft...it's obviously a long shot, but what if the Leafs get McDavid?
How does that affect the rebuild? He's likely to start with the team, and therefore beginning his ELC immediately. I would think that this fast forwards the rebuild somewhat over, say, drafting Strome.
To me the biggest thing that changes is Kessel. If we get McDavid then Phil isn't going anywhere. I'd still be looking at stripping away parts like Bozak and, well, Bozak, and the idea behind being patient with our non-McDavid prospects would still be the same. But it definitely fast-forwards our rebuild quite a bit, enough so that Phil would still be a very valuable contributor to the team when we're ready to compete.
I think it would be fairly easy to move Bozak at the draft. Even with how terrible this team has been in 2015, he's still put up good numbers.
Frank E said:CarltonTheBear said:Frank E said:When Phil is on his game, he's an elite playmaker that needs a better centre, but I'd rather spread out the offense of McDavid and Kessel over the 2 lines.
Well I mean it all depends on how they would click in training camp and whatnot, but keeping them apart could have it's benefits. For starters we don't know how Leafs fans would react seeing a legit 1st line winger playing with a legit 1st line centre. All of our minds could explode.
I remember when Sundin and Mogilny didn't play together, and people used to go bananas over that.
CarltonTheBear said:Frank E said:CarltonTheBear said:Frank E said:When Phil is on his game, he's an elite playmaker that needs a better centre, but I'd rather spread out the offense of McDavid and Kessel over the 2 lines.
Well I mean it all depends on how they would click in training camp and whatnot, but keeping them apart could have it's benefits. For starters we don't know how Leafs fans would react seeing a legit 1st line winger playing with a legit 1st line centre. All of our minds could explode.
I remember when Sundin and Mogilny didn't play together, and people used to go bananas over that.
Remember the short-lived M.A.D line?
Frank E said:I'll tell you, I don't remember them playing together much at all...it must have been very short lived, or my memory is letting me down, again.
CarltonTheBear said:Frank E said:I'll tell you, I don't remember them playing together much at all...it must have been very short lived, or my memory is letting me down, again.
No, they definitely didn't. But I remember Quinn started a season with Tucker-Sundin-Mogilny (Mats-Alex-Darcy) and the experiment lasted like a couple of games because of how awful they were defensively even though they scored. Ah, accountability.
Potvin29 said:CarltonTheBear said:Frank E said:I'll tell you, I don't remember them playing together much at all...it must have been very short lived, or my memory is letting me down, again.
No, they definitely didn't. But I remember Quinn started a season with Tucker-Sundin-Mogilny (Mats-Alex-Darcy) and the experiment lasted like a couple of games because of how awful they were defensively even though they scored. Ah, accountability.
It's funny when you search their names you get a 2002 article from the Leafs website talking about putting Sundin-Mogilny together and leaving it awhile to "gel." One of the first games they lit up the terrible Penguins too.
CarltonTheBear said:Frank E said:So, speaking of the draft...it's obviously a long shot, but what if the Leafs get McDavid?
How does that affect the rebuild? He's likely to start with the team, and therefore beginning his ELC immediately. I would think that this fast forwards the rebuild somewhat over, say, drafting Strome.
To me the biggest thing that changes is Kessel. If we get McDavid then Phil isn't going anywhere. I'd still be looking at stripping away parts like Bozak and, well, Bozak, and the idea behind being patient with our non-McDavid prospects would still be the same. But it definitely fast-forwards our rebuild quite a bit, enough so that Phil would still be a very valuable contributor to the team when we're ready to compete.