Panthers @ Leafs - Feb. 3rd, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050

[rdowdall]

What are the chances that Florida sweeps the Leafs in the season series?  It could happen, but I feel that the PDO has kind of gone the Panthers way in the first two games and that at some point that has to even out.  There aren't too many times that a team is limited to 3 shots in the second and then scores 4 in the third.  Also losing Freddy didn't help. 

If the Leafs take the next two against Florida then they are going to be in okay shape.

 

[Kin]

People who cry like babies with a soiled diaper after every goal, let alone every loss, lose their ability to meaningfully criticize a team.

 

[LuncheonMeat]

They don?t deserve to make the playoffs.  So many opportunities to make a statement and they choke.  And dubas refuses to do anything about the goalie situation.  Unacceptable all around.

I know, right? I heard that Jim Rutherford offered Dubas Tristan Jarry for Dmytro Timashov. And Dubas REFUSED!!!!11!!1!! I've had it up to here! <--

Source or did you just pull that one out of your ass?

Straight from the depths. I was simply poking fun at the 'it's the end of the world and Dubas refuses to do anything about it' crew.

 

[Zee]

Guess I missed a doosie last night, didn't see one second of this game or thread. ?\_(ツ)_/?

 

[L K]

While we are on the topic of good reactionary takes, why is soft useless Nylander still on the team.  Give me Milan Lucic over him any day.

 

[bustaheims]

As bad as some of you think, they only gave up 13 shots in the final 2 periods. CC sucks and Hutch couldn't stop a beachball.

Yup. Other than the score (which is obviously the most important stat), all the metrics had the Leafs firmly in control of the game.

 

[dappleganger]

As bad as some of you think, they only gave up 13 shots in the final 2 periods. CC sucks and Hutch couldn't stop a beachball.

Yup. Other than the score (which is obviously the most important stat), all the metrics had the Leafs firmly in control of the game.

Unfortunately, two of those goals are on Hutch. Leafs needed to win that game. Bad loss.

If Andersen is out a couple of weeks this team is in trouble.

 

[Zee]

Man, if you told me Leafs would have a 3-1 third period lead, and end the game outshooting the opposition 34-21 overall, I'd say that's a guaranteed win.  I can't get over looking at the box score and wondering WTH happened?

 

[OldTimeHockey]

People who cry like babies with a soiled diaper after every goal, let alone every loss, lose their ability to meaningfully criticize a team.

Thank you!

It's a sad state around here after a Leaf's loss. The leafs played a fairly good game and didn't come out ahead. It happens. Was it an important game? Sure. Is there 29 games to go? Yes. Deep breaths

I still can't fathom living and dying with my favourite team after every win and loss. It has to kill you on the inside.

 

[Zee]

People who cry like babies with a soiled diaper after every goal, let alone every loss, lose their ability to meaningfully criticize a team.

Thank you!

It's a sad state around here after a Leaf's loss. The leafs played a fairly good game and didn't come out ahead. It happens. Was it an important game? Sure. Is there 29 games to go? Yes. Deep breaths

I still can't fathom living and dying with my favourite team after every win and loss. It has to kill you on the inside.

Yeah I can't do the game threads anymore during games due to certain posters.  Better to just watch the entire game and see the outcome.

 

[Bender]

People who cry like babies with a soiled diaper after every goal, let alone every loss, lose their ability to meaningfully criticize a team.

Thank you!

It's a sad state around here after a Leaf's loss. The leafs played a fairly good game and didn't come out ahead. It happens. Was it an important game? Sure. Is there 29 games to go? Yes. Deep breaths

I still can't fathom living and dying with my favourite team after every win and loss. It has to kill you on the inside.

I know. It's gotten to a point where I can't stand being on the forum when we're in a losing position in the 3rd period or even just afterward. I don't think I would've said that even a few years ago.

 

[Bender]

People who cry like babies with a soiled diaper after every goal, let alone every loss, lose their ability to meaningfully criticize a team.

Thank you!

It's a sad state around here after a Leaf's loss. The leafs played a fairly good game and didn't come out ahead. It happens. Was it an important game? Sure. Is there 29 games to go? Yes. Deep breaths

I still can't fathom living and dying with my favourite team after every win and loss. It has to kill you on the inside.

Yeah I can't do the game threads anymore during games due to certain posters.  Better to just watch the entire game and see the outcome.

You literally took the words out of my mouth. It would be nice if Tapatalk actually muted people properly.

 

[Bender]

And as a final remark, the Leafs really do need to shore up backup goaltending. The Leafs brass surely were aware of this all year and if Andersen goes down with an injury for any length of time then they were just negligent in the backup goalie market. Maybe it doesn't work out with the next guy but even people watching the Marlies weren't vouching for Hutchinson.

Even just regular subpar goaltending gets the Leafs to OT, but a sub .800 performance. Woof!

 

[Zee]

And as a final remark, the Leafs really do need to shore up backup goaltending. The Leafs brass surely were aware of this all year and if Andersen goes down with an injury for any length of time then they were just negligent in the backup goalie market. Maybe it doesn't work out with the next guy but even people watching the Marlies weren't vouching for Hutchinson.

Even just regular subpar goaltending gets the Leafs to OT, but a sub .800 performance. Woof!

Other teams knows Leafs are desperate though and can use that to their advantage now.  Trading from a position of weakness.

On an unrelated note, why can't the Leafs ever have a surprise goalie come up from the minors and go on a run?  I see it all the time with other teams where some guy you never expected just gets hot and wins a bunch of games. Would be nice if that ever happened to this team.

 

[Kin]

On an unrelated note, why can't the Leafs ever have a surprise goalie come up from the minors and go on a run?  I see it all the time with other teams where some guy you never expected just gets hot and wins a bunch of games. Would be nice if that ever happened to this team.

It feels like that applies to Reimer at least a little.

 

[louisstamos]

And as a final remark, the Leafs really do need to shore up backup goaltending. The Leafs brass surely were aware of this all year and if Andersen goes down with an injury for any length of time then they were just negligent in the backup goalie market. Maybe it doesn't work out with the next guy but even people watching the Marlies weren't vouching for Hutchinson.

Even just regular subpar goaltending gets the Leafs to OT, but a sub .800 performance. Woof!

Other teams knows Leafs are desperate though and can use that to their advantage now.  Trading from a position of weakness.

On an unrelated note, why can't the Leafs ever have a surprise goalie come up from the minors and go on a run?  I see it all the time with other teams where some guy you never expected just gets hot and wins a bunch of games. Would be nice if that ever happened to this team.

I guess the last one who did that was James Reimer?  When Giguere and the Monster went down, and they gave him a shot, and he ended up going on a tear to end the season and won the starting role.

Edit: evidently, Nik and I think alike...

 

[Kin]

And as a final remark, the Leafs really do need to shore up backup goaltending. The Leafs brass surely were aware of this all year and if Andersen goes down with an injury for any length of time then they were just negligent in the backup goalie market. Maybe it doesn't work out with the next guy but even people watching the Marlies weren't vouching for Hutchinson.

Even just regular subpar goaltending gets the Leafs to OT, but a sub .800 performance. Woof!

It feels like this has been discussed a lot, and what I'm about to say has been said, but I feel that if the issue is this obvious then we should probably assume that the Leafs brass is aware of it and the lack of action isn't about Dubas being stubborn or negligent but that the solutions aren't as readily available as we'd like.

I'm all for saying the Leafs should shore up the backup goaltending but are we just as in on that if the price is Kapanen or Johnsson? Or another first round pick down the road?

 

[bustaheims]

And as a final remark, the Leafs really do need to shore up backup goaltending. The Leafs brass surely were aware of this all year and if Andersen goes down with an injury for any length of time then they were just negligent in the backup goalie market. Maybe it doesn't work out with the next guy but even people watching the Marlies weren't vouching for Hutchinson.

Even just regular subpar goaltending gets the Leafs to OT, but a sub .800 performance. Woof!

So, here's the list of all the goalies that have signed contracts since July 1st 2019 (this list includes some RFAs and extensions that were signed for players still under contract, but it's the best I can do):

https://www.capfriendly.com/signings/all/standard/goalies/1-15/1-14500000/07012019-02042020

As you can see from these, The free agent market this summer was basically starters and minor league types. It wasn't so much that it was negligence, but more that there wasn't much available without having to give up assets. And, then, the questions becomes how much should the team give up for a backup? Considering the only goalie that was traded since the beginning of June that is having a better year that Hutchinson is Reimer - and he was traded as a cap dump - I'm not sure there was much out there at a reasonable cost.

Would it have been nice if the team had upgraded the backup this summer? Obviously. I'm just not sure there were any reasonable options available in terms of cost to acquire or actual upgrade.

 

[Guilt Trip]

They don?t deserve to make the playoffs.  So many opportunities to make a statement and they choke.  And dubas refuses to do anything about the goalie situation.  Unacceptable all around.

I know, right? I heard that Jim Rutherford offered Dubas Tristan Jarry for Dmytro Timashov. And Dubas REFUSED!!!!11!!1!! I've had it up to here! <--

Source or did you just pull that one out of your ass?

Straight from the depths. I was simply poking fun at the 'it's the end of the world and Dubas refuses to do anything about it' crew.

Good one lol.

 

[azzurri63]

I think what some of you are missing and I'll agree with you Nik and others and Craig Buttons remarks that hey maybe it's just not that easy to fill in the void.
The frustration that some of us feel and you guys don't seem to realize is this isn't something that is a problem now.
Like Button said been an issue for 18 months.
You can agree or disagree with the cap issues we have and I personally think that's part of the problem.
Now like you mention Nik maybe we have to trade a guy like Kappy or AJ to shore up the backup.
My point is Dubas put the team in this cap situation so is what it is.
Meanwhile we keep plugging away and every once in a while we have a game like last night and some on here vent.
We vent because it's something that has been ongoing for a long time. This should have been addressed a long time ago before Sparks.
Some of you think it's one game and it is but look at it deeper and it's more than that. It's a big problem Button is 100 percent correct.
Every one of these games that we lose because of the backup or sh**ty D is costing us and how long before you wait before it's too f'n late.

https://www.tsn.ca/video/button-the-buck-for-goaltending-woes-stops-with-dubas%7E1892628