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Phaneuf being shopped

Nik the Trik said:
princedpw said:
I totally understand how that works, I just don't think that is the likely outcome of a Phaneuf trade for a variety of reasons (and I don't think a Phaneuf trade is likely in the first place).  And if Phaneuf was traded, I'd hope it was for futures that would see the Leafs worse next year but better some time further in the future ...
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I don't necessrily think the Leafs are likely to trade Phaneuf either but I wasn't really commenting on that. I was just responding to the assertion that trading him would necessarily leave a huge hole in the team's defense along with the seeming incongruity between the relatively high regard expressed for his contributions to the team and the relative low regard for what he might fetch in a trade.
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He will be traded,it's just a matter of time.There's enough interest out west that I doubt he'll ever play another game as a Leaf.
 
jdh1 said:
He will be traded,it's just a matter of time.There's enough interest out west that I doubt he'll ever play another game as a Leaf.
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You'd have to think Edmonton would jump at the chance to acquire his services.
 
jdh1 said:
Nik the Trik said:
princedpw said:
I totally understand how that works, I just don't think that is the likely outcome of a Phaneuf trade for a variety of reasons (and I don't think a Phaneuf trade is likely in the first place).  And if Phaneuf was traded, I'd hope it was for futures that would see the Leafs worse next year but better some time further in the future ...
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I don't necessrily think the Leafs are likely to trade Phaneuf either but I wasn't really commenting on that. I was just responding to the assertion that trading him would necessarily leave a huge hole in the team's defense along with the seeming incongruity between the relatively high regard expressed for his contributions to the team and the relative low regard for what he might fetch in a trade.
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He will be traded,it's just a matter of time.There's enough interest out west that I doubt he'll ever play another game as a Leaf.
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It is a little confusing that just last week nearly every credible source was reporting the Leafs were shopping Phaneuf. Now, this week Shanahan comes out and says not only will he stay, but he plans on helping him adjust better to the role of captain moving forward. What are we supposed to believe here?
 
RedLeaf said:
It is a little confusing that just last week nearly every credible source was reporting the Leafs were shopping Phaneuf. Now, this week Shanahan comes out and says not only will he stay, but he plans on helping him adjust better to the role of captain moving forward. What are we supposed to believe here?
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That, as usual, the truth falls somewhere in the middle.
 
RedLeaf said:
jdh1 said:
Nik the Trik said:
princedpw said:
I totally understand how that works, I just don't think that is the likely outcome of a Phaneuf trade for a variety of reasons (and I don't think a Phaneuf trade is likely in the first place).  And if Phaneuf was traded, I'd hope it was for futures that would see the Leafs worse next year but better some time further in the future ...
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I don't necessrily think the Leafs are likely to trade Phaneuf either but I wasn't really commenting on that. I was just responding to the assertion that trading him would necessarily leave a huge hole in the team's defense along with the seeming incongruity between the relatively high regard expressed for his contributions to the team and the relative low regard for what he might fetch in a trade.
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He will be traded,it's just a matter of time.There's enough interest out west that I doubt he'll ever play another game as a Leaf.
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It is a little confusing that just last week nearly every credible source was reporting the Leafs were shopping Phaneuf.
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Wasn't it just Kypreos?  Dreger denied they were shopping him.
 
RedLeaf said:
jdh1 said:
Nik the Trik said:
princedpw said:
I totally understand how that works, I just don't think that is the likely outcome of a Phaneuf trade for a variety of reasons (and I don't think a Phaneuf trade is likely in the first place).  And if Phaneuf was traded, I'd hope it was for futures that would see the Leafs worse next year but better some time further in the future ...
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I don't necessrily think the Leafs are likely to trade Phaneuf either but I wasn't really commenting on that. I was just responding to the assertion that trading him would necessarily leave a huge hole in the team's defense along with the seeming incongruity between the relatively high regard expressed for his contributions to the team and the relative low regard for what he might fetch in a trade.
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He will be traded,it's just a matter of time.There's enough interest out west that I doubt he'll ever play another game as a Leaf.
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It is a little confusing that just last week nearly every credible source was reporting the Leafs were shopping Phaneuf. Now, this week Shanahan comes out and says not only will he stay, but he plans on helping him adjust better to the role of captain moving forward. What are we supposed to believe here?
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Shanahan can't admit he's being shopped,because there would be constant inquiry by the media,as well Dion would be on edge over the news.

He is got to say that we are going to work with him,try to work it out.That's the right thing to say.He's got to get as much value for him as possible.
Because there is a chance that the offers are poor and they are forced to keep him...Remember how Gillis fared with the Luongo deal.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Rebel_1812 said:
You'd rather have a dinosaur on the team?
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You realize that dinosaur led one of the best teams in the league this season in ice-time, right?
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And lead that team to another playoff disappointment. I don't like the idea of trusting a fossil to turn the team around.
 
Rebel_1812 said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Rebel_1812 said:
You'd rather have a dinosaur on the team?
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You realize that dinosaur led one of the best teams in the league this season in ice-time, right?
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And lead that team to another playoff disappointment. I don't like the idea of trusting a fossil to turn the team around.
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Well. If you can get a younger, more defensive minded veteran with leadership abilities without giving up any important assets, than yeah, you acquire that player instead. Otherwise, it looks as though 'Shanonis' will do what they have to in acquiring some 'help' for Dion, in the form of a veteran defensemen, who can ease the load of wearing the 'C' and playing the monster minutes. You would have to think Boyle certainly fits all those requirements, and because of his age, would be much cheaper than a younger such player.
 
Watching the last 2 rounds of playoffs I can see where Phaneuf's toughness is an asset but I think that his lack of skating mobility is too big of an issue which is the main 'skill set' reason I would like to see him traded.

The speed and skating needed is what Gardiner and Rielly have in spades and Phaneuf and Franson don't. 
 
jdh1 said:
Is today the final day when Phanuef can be traded to any team? without his consent.
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Under the current CBA, his NTC kicked in as soon as he signed his extension, so, there hasn't been a period where Phaneuf could be traded without consent for months.
 
I admit to not having time to follow things too closely, but what is this about?


Eklund - If the Isles can pull off the Phaneuf deal they can have three of the key components of that 09-10 Leafs team. #Goodtimes
 
Ok, so this isn't something that is out there and known to all except me? There is no Phaneuf to Isles thing. Got it. Eklund made me look!  :o
 
Michael said:
Ok, so this isn't something that is out there and known to all except me? There is no Phaneuf to Isles thing. Got it. Eklund made me look!  :o
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Really just Eklund taking the rumours of Phaneuf begin available and pairing him with a team with cap space that needs improvements on the backend. It's not impossible that it happens, but, it's unlikely.
 
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