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Phaneuf to Oilers (fair warning - it's Eklund)

sneakyray said:
I'd like giroux

maybe philly is desperate enough to consider it?

Not going to happen thank the hockey gods. What is he a 8.75 mill cap hit? Where would we have the room for that and not handcuff ourselves this offseason? As dumb as holmgren is... I doubt he deals away his 1c for anything. The assets needed to make that deal happen should be on our "no way in hell" list.
 
Floats like a Kadri said:
sneakyray said:
I'd like giroux

maybe philly is desperate enough to consider it?

Not going to happen thank the hockey gods. What is he a 8.75 mill cap hit? Where would we have the room for that and not handcuff ourselves this offseason? As dumb as holmgren is... I doubt he deals away his 1c for anything. The assets needed to make that deal happen should be on our "no way in hell" list.

Yeah, I've since read an article that says they will listen on anyone not named giroux.

oh well.
 
Nucc said:
I'd go with Phaneuf to the Oilers for Yakupov and a prospect.

On the surface it seems like a good deal, but unless Phaneuf has completely priced himself out of our range, I don't see a reason to make that trade.
 
Snoopzilla said:
Nucc said:
I'd go with Phaneuf to the Oilers for Yakupov and a prospect.

On the surface it seems like a good deal, but unless Phaneuf has completely priced himself out of our range, I don't see a reason to make that trade.

Other than the fact that the Oilers would kill themselves laughing at that offer?
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
Nucc said:
I'd go with Phaneuf to the Oilers for Yakupov and a prospect.

Expiring high contract to a non-playoff team for a recent 1st overall pick and a prospect to boot?  Yep, sounds about right.

For a guy the same poster said shouldn't be paid more than $4M per.
 
The question remains, who do you replace Phaneuf with? My feeling is this team would be pretty bad without a suitable replacement for him and I don't know who/where/how you just go out and get that guy.

Phaneuf haters - * Newsflash * Phaneuf is quality - Warts and all.
 
Dr. Bobby Leafer said:
The question remains, who do you replace Phaneuf with? My feeling is this team would be pretty bad without a suitable replacement for him and I don't know who/where/how you just go out and get that guy.

Phaneuf haters - * Newsflash * Phaneuf is quality - Warts and all.

I know we can't replace Phaneuf, I think the issue is the money he'll command.  For $7M or more people want to see an absolute stud back there who is a bona-fide leader like Chara and nobody questions his ability.  I know you can't find guys like that so we are stuck with what we have.
 
Zee said:
I know we can't replace Phaneuf, I think the issue is the money he'll command.  For $7M or more people want to see an absolute stud back there who is a bona-fide leader like Chara and nobody questions his ability.  I know you can't find guys like that so we are stuck with what we have.

Pretty slim pickins for UFA D this summer too.
 
Dr. Bobby Leafer said:
Zee said:
I know we can't replace Phaneuf, I think the issue is the money he'll command.  For $7M or more people want to see an absolute stud back there who is a bona-fide leader like Chara and nobody questions his ability.  I know you can't find guys like that so we are stuck with what we have.

Pretty slim pickins for UFA D this summer too.

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RedLeaf said:
People complain about the Leafs defence now. I'd hate to see how badly it would be without him.

Agreed, if there were no other changes to it and we went with the remaining six. 

Move Dion and I think there will be much more of an overhaul than just subtracting him.
 
Optimus Reimer said:
Dr. Bobby Leafer said:
Zee said:
I know we can't replace Phaneuf, I think the issue is the money he'll command.  For $7M or more people want to see an absolute stud back there who is a bona-fide leader like Chara and nobody questions his ability.  I know you can't find guys like that so we are stuck with what we have.

Pretty slim pickins for UFA D this summer too.

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Excellent picture, just excellent.

I doubt Philly trades a first rounder with the draft in Philly.

As for the potential trade of Pahneuf, I am not as down on him as are many others.

He is not a number one pairing Dman (except perhaps at the pay window) but even there, a question arise: what will blueliners be getting this summer? Subban (who I also like a lot but he is much better now that he was when they mistakenly (IMO) gave him the Norris - I think he is still developing and will be much, much better than he is yet and honestly I want Montreal to bungle the contract negotiations so he takes his leave of Les Habs sooner rather than later) will be looking at $8M as a first pairing guy so maybe Phaneuf is not overpriced at all.

Florida needs to make the salary floor and needs immediate blueline help. Phaneuf answers both. The problem is that since it is a first overall, the likelihood of a swap of firsts plus Phaneuf is less than probable. We may have to give more.

Yes, we will miss Phaneuf's minutes (should be cut back if he stays) but the fact is this core needs a culture change and it's not going to be Kessel or JVR and trading either Kadri (like many I am on the fence) or Gardiner may create more problems than it solves. We have some young Dmen coming along and though it would be a drop in quality maybe we need to take thats step and if we need a veteran Dman during the year, we address it then.

Finally we need salary cap room, trading Kadri and/or Gardiner will not address that.
 
Nonis could redeem himself in my eyes if he could strike a deal for Phaneuf before his new deal kicks in. As some have mentioned Phaneuf might return more as a player already signed. If that's been Nonis's strategy all along then good on him.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Nonis could redeem himself in my eyes if he could strike a deal for Phaneuf before his new deal kicks in. As some have mentioned Phaneuf might return more as a player already signed. If that's been Nonis's strategy all along then good on him.

"Uh, of course...umm...of course that was my plan"

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Is this still a possibility?  I thought Shanahan threw water over this rumor when he came out in an interview saying he looked forward to helping Dion and surrounding him with more leaders etc.
 
Zee said:
Is this still a possibility?  I thought Shanahan threw water over this rumor when he came out in an interview saying he looked forward to helping Dion and surrounding him with more leaders etc.

He did, but, at the same time, those are things you kind of have to say if you're not 100% you're going to be able to trade a player. It may be an indication that Shanny doesn't want Phaneuf traded, but, it could also be meaningless lip service.
 
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