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Qualifier Game 4: Leafs @ Blue Jackets - Aug. 7th, 8:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050

azzurri63 said:
Chris said:
Guilt Trip said:
Dappleganger said:
People on here don?t even care anymore.
Oh some care but in the grand scheme, not much. It's only  hockey
True and this team ain't going to win it all this year, so I'm pretty much fine with them losing here and getting a shot at #1. That would open all kinds of options to improve the team going forward. Otherwise...probably more of the same next year.

Love to see it but chances are slim.
Absolutely. Our D is nowhere good enough to win it all right now. I'd rather go out now and get a shot at 1st overall then go out after the first or second round.
 
It's clear that what has to happen in the off-season is a complete blow-up the defense.  No one who has dressed in this series is off-limits, Muzzin and Rielly included if the return is right.  And one of Marner or Nylander probably needs to be shipped IF Dubas can get a top-pair defenseman coming back.

Unfortunately our GM is a guy who thought getting Barrie and Ceci was a real good idea.
 
herman said:
Why is Marner trash

He should be paid as much as Matthews so he feels underpaid and isn?t putting in the effort.  He legitimately looks bad.  He?s making bad plays with the puck even when not forced.
 
Chris said:
L K said:
Hyman has been really disappointing.  Where is the feisty Hyman.
Agree...he's been a passenger. Didn't he get injured in camp? Maybe has a lingering issue.
He's back to old Hyman and that's not good. After the season he had, he's been very disappointing. Nylander hasn't done much for me either.
 
L K said:
herman said:
Why is Marner trash

He should be paid as much as Matthews so he feels underpaid and isn?t putting in the effort.  He legitimately looks bad.  He?s making bad plays with the puck even when not forced.

PP dying because it runs through him. King of OZ turnovers when everyone is committing to an attack run.
 
This is really a pathetic effort from this team.  Absolutely no urgency in their game.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
It's clear that what has to happen in the off-season is a complete blow-up the defense.  No one who has dressed in this series is off-limits, Muzzin and Rielly included if the return is right.  And one of Marner or Nylander probably needs to be shipped IF Dubas can get a top-pair defenseman coming back.

Unfortunately our GM is a guy who thought getting Barrie and Ceci was a real good idea.
Muzzin is the type of D man we need. Rielly isn't going anywhere. Ceci was the price to pay to dump Zaitsev. Barrie unfortunately isn't the type of D man we need. Still a decent trade though as we'll have Kerfoot going forward.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
It's clear that what has to happen in the off-season is a complete blow-up the defense.  No one who has dressed in this series is off-limits, Muzzin and Rielly included if the return is right.  And one of Marner or Nylander probably needs to be shipped IF Dubas can get a top-pair defenseman coming back.

Unfortunately our GM is a guy who thought getting Barrie and Ceci was a real good idea.
Muzzin is the type of D man we need. Rielly isn't going anywhere. Ceci was the price to pay to dump Zaitsev. Barrie unfortunately isn't the type of D man we need. Still a decent trade though as we'll have Kerfoot going forward.
If I never see Barrie again it will be too soon. He's been completely useless this series. Rielly doesn't look right to me, he seems slow and tentative. Maybe that's just what playing Columbus does to you as many of the Leafs look that way.
 
Big let down by the big four.
Next PP just play the fourth line, they look alright.
I blame Mats for turning me into a Maple Leafs fan. I was a Pittsburgh fan initialilly. Imagine how much better I'd be off if I had just stuck with that.  :'(
 
Guilt Trip said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
It's clear that what has to happen in the off-season is a complete blow-up the defense.  No one who has dressed in this series is off-limits, Muzzin and Rielly included if the return is right.  And one of Marner or Nylander probably needs to be shipped IF Dubas can get a top-pair defenseman coming back.

Unfortunately our GM is a guy who thought getting Barrie and Ceci was a real good idea.
Muzzin is the type of D man we need. Rielly isn't going anywhere. Ceci was the price to pay to dump Zaitsev. Barrie unfortunately isn't the type of D man we need. Still a decent trade though as we'll have Kerfoot going forward.

Muzzin is but he's not a top-pairing defenseman.  We don't have one.

I'm pissed at Rielly right now but I really do think he needs to go.  Re-signing him will be spending too much money for what he brings.

They need to tear this defense down and populate the lower two pairings with guys who play defense first, second, and last.

And the Kadri trade?  Pissed away our best asset for a decent enough 3C and a complete wafer.  Dubas did OK with the Muzzin trade but I don't buy that he had to trade Zaitsev for Cody G/D Ceci.
 
I think it is clear that some sort of real change is required.  I wrote last night that as individuals I like a lot of these players.  As a group they just don?t work.  Dubas needs to acknowledge that this iteration doesn?t have it.
 
Spezza! F'in Jason Spezza lifetime Sen. Once mocked by all Leafs fans. Cares more about this game than the rest of the "stars" on this team combined. Take Marner's money and give it to Spezza. Like Manner is over paid by 4 million a year at this point. Guy needs to be booed mercilessly by all Leaf fans. So greedy and now is trash/ ending angry drunk (but I'm not drunk) rant now
 

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