Randy Carlyle/Leaf Coach thread

[louisstamos]

Do you think perhaps the players misunderstood what Carlyle meant by 'collapsing' in front of the goalie?  That would explain a lot.

Wakka Wakka!

 

[Tigger]

I'd call it 'Rabid fan base, Carlyle chew toy'... that or 'mine'.

 

[Rebel_1812]

Anyone want to organize a pool for Carlyle's departure date?

A carpool?  ;D

What if he doesn't get fired?

 

[93forever]

Anyone want to organize a pool for Carlyle's departure date?

A carpool?  ;D

What if he doesn't get fired?

Leafs will start the season on a long losing streak.  Either a core of players are traded or common sense arises and Carlyle gets fired.  I personally see nothing in Carlyle that would warrant a contract extension so I cannot he could possibly return.

 

[mc]

If he is not fired, can they at least also NOT fix the toaster?

 

[Tigger]

Anyone want to organize a pool for Carlyle's departure date?

A carpool?  ;D

What if he doesn't get fired?

Leafs will start the season on a long losing streak.  Either a core of players are traded or common sense arises and Carlyle gets fired.  I personally see nothing in Carlyle that would warrant a contract extension so I cannot he could possibly return.

Hurm, is that like when you chew masters slippers, wonder what the calamity is about and reconcile being told 'no'?

Either a core of players gets traded or Carlyle fired? Can I have a more 'a la carte' menu?

 

[Rebel_1812]

Anyone want to organize a pool for Carlyle's departure date?

A carpool?  ;D

What if he doesn't get fired?

Leafs will start the season on a long losing streak.  Either a core of players are traded or common sense arises and Carlyle gets fired.  I personally see nothing in Carlyle that would warrant a contract extension so I cannot he could possibly return.

Its not a sure thing; I'd say the odds are 80% he gets fired.  If there are no better coaching options they will stick with the only guy to get the leafs to the playoffs since the first lockout.  I think they wanted Deboer or Maurice; but those options have dried up.  Who is a better available coaching option?  Its not like Nonis can go with an unproven guy, because if the miss the playoffs another season his job is gone too.

 

[A finnish leaf fan]

Anyone want to organize a pool for Carlyle's departure date?

A carpool?  ;D

What if he doesn't get fired?

Leafs will start the season on a long losing streak.  Either a core of players are traded or common sense arises and Carlyle gets fired.  I personally see nothing in Carlyle that would warrant a contract extension so I cannot he could possibly return.

Its not a sure thing; I'd say the odds are 80% he gets fired.  If there are no better coaching options they will stick with the only guy to get the leafs to the playoffs since the first lockout.  I think they wanted Deboer or Maurice; but those options have dried up.  Who is a better available coaching option?  Its not like Nonis can go with an unproven guy, because if the miss the playoffs another season his job is gone too.

Barry Trotz would be a good fit, as would Peter Laviolette. Either of them would be a better option than the two you mentioned, and both are still available. There could also be other names in play after the playoffs are over, I can easily see for example Bylsma getting fired if the Pens don't make it past the first 2 rounds.

 

[freer]

Anyone want to organize a pool for Carlyle's departure date?

A carpool?  ;D

What if he doesn't get fired?

Then we are screwed for another season because he is garbage. Just saying

 

[Big Daddy]

2014/15 Head Coach will be Kevin Dineen  Asst Coaches will be Shanahans two buddies Scott Stevens and Kirk Muller

 

[Redleaf]

2014/15 Head Coach will be Kevin Dineen  Asst Coaches will be Shanahans two buddies Scott Stevens and Kirk Muller

He doesn't have a particularly inspiring coaching record.

 

[bustaheims]

2014/15 Head Coach will be Kevin Dineen  Asst Coaches will be Shanahans two buddies Scott Stevens and Kirk Muller

He doesn't have a particularly inspiring coaching record.

Listen to him in interviews - he's very well spoken and seems to really understand where the game is now and where it's heading. On top of that, the Panthers' roster he took to the playoffs was a real mishmash of mediocre talent with Theodore and Clemmensen in net. As to be expected, they faltered the next season, but, what he managed with them in 11/12 was nothing short of excellent. Unfortunately, as management should have expected, the team's goaltending collapsed afterwards and, well, there aren't many (if any) coaches who can turn a team with that poor a level of goaltending into anything more than a bottom 5 team.

 

[Kin]

2014/15 Head Coach will be Kevin Dineen  Asst Coaches will be Shanahans two buddies Scott Stevens and Kirk Muller

He doesn't have a particularly inspiring coaching record.

Nobody does until they do.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

2014/15 Head Coach will be Kevin Dineen  Asst Coaches will be Shanahans two buddies Scott Stevens and Kirk Muller

He doesn't have a particularly inspiring coaching record.

Carlyle supposedly had an "inspiring coaching record" and one of them Cup thangs.  I care less about their W-L record and more about how the team they coach plays.  Carlyle was defended by some on the basis of his record in Toronto too, even though the team wasn't playing very well on whole.

 

[Redleaf]

2014/15 Head Coach will be Kevin Dineen  Asst Coaches will be Shanahans two buddies Scott Stevens and Kirk Muller

He doesn't have a particularly inspiring coaching record.

Nobody does until they do.

Right. And I'm suggesting the Leafs hire someone that already has one.

 

[Kin]

Right. And I'm suggesting the Leafs hire someone that already has one.

Ron Wilson?

 

[bustaheims]

Right. And I'm suggesting the Leafs hire someone that already has one.

As nice at that would be, the last thing the Leafs should be doing is hiring another old school coach that's set in his ways. They need someone dynamic and adaptable who sees the game as it is now, not what it was 5 years ago - which is just something that's not really out there in terms of available coaches with "inspiring coaching records."

 

[Redleaf]

2014/15 Head Coach will be Kevin Dineen  Asst Coaches will be Shanahans two buddies Scott Stevens and Kirk Muller

He doesn't have a particularly inspiring coaching record.

Carlyle supposedly had an "inspiring coaching record"

And so did Pat Quinn and Pat Burns. Going from memory, guys who didn't, didn't fare as well in Toronto.

 

[Redleaf]

Right. And I'm suggesting the Leafs hire someone that already has one.

Ron Wilson?

We could go the other way too...

Mike Murphy?

 

[Kin]

We could go the other way too...

Mike Murphy?

Ok. So if my point is that there is no one template for what makes a good coaching hire the idea that inexperienced guys can be just as bad a hire as experienced guys supports that.