Red Wings @ Leafs - Oct. 13th, 2:00pm - Amazon Prime

[azzurri63]

It was a fun 10 years. Some of the best players the Leafs have ever had.

The opportunity was there. Unfortunately I think you weren't and aren't winning with some of the core we've had over the years. We've argued this on this site till the cows come home and with the trades Dubas and Tre have made to try and win have made it that much harder to look for anything promising down the road. I'd be ok with some regress if the pipeline looked good but it flat out stinks.

 

[Chris]

Robertson's problem has never been lack of effort. It's been a combination of tunnel vision, over-handling and mishandling of the puck, spending too much time not on his skates...he tries to be physical which I give him a lot of credit for, and sometimes he succeeds in winning a puck battle or knocking an opponent down. But too often he just bounces off bigger players or gets easily pushed aside. Not sure there is a lot he can do about that, his size is what it is.

I still think he could be a regular 20-30 goal scorer (maybe even peaking around 35) on a rebuilding team where he could play top line minutes, first PP...I made a flippant comment the other day about waiving him but the Leafs really can't do that, he's still a worthwhile asset who could be particularly valuable if injuries mount. But at some point I think he deserves a chance to go elsewhere and chart a new path.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

That was a well played game. Some real good things happening. The team is going in the right direction IMO.

Pros:

• McMann looked real good.
• Rielly continues to look excellent.
• Matthews had lots of chances.
• Cowan looked pretty good.

Cons:

• While they had some puck time, Nylander/Tavares are not generating near enough offensive opportunities

Also, anyone ripping Stolarz really doesn't know what they watched. Not a single goal last night was on Stolarz. Yes the shot totals were low but almost every shot on Stolarz last night was a dangerous scoring chance.

• Goal 1: Roy poked the puck out of the scrum directly into the slot. In a net front scramble, you don't look for pucks. You take sticks and put people on their rearends. Neither happened there. Nothing Stolarz could do
• Goal 2: That was a beautiful play by Van Riemsdyk. He sold pass all the way down and tucked it in just under the bar. Perhaps if the leafs made plays like that instead of shooting it into Talbot's bread basket all day, we'd have a different outcome
• Goal 3: Stolarz was playing the original shot. The shot hit matthews and went right to the Wings player. It was a bang bang play. What should the goalie do there?

 

[Guilt Trip]

That was a well played game. Some real good things happening. The team is going in the right direction IMO.

Pros:

• McMann looked real good.
• Rielly continues to look excellent.
• Matthews had lots of chances.
• Cowan looked pretty good.

Cons:

• While they had some puck time, Nylander/Tavares are not generating near enough offensive opportunities

Also, anyone ripping Stolarz really doesn't know what they watched. Not a single goal last night was on Stolarz. Yes the shot totals were low but almost every shot on Stolarz last night was a dangerous scoring chance.

• Goal 1: Roy poked the puck out of the scrum directly into the slot. In a net front scramble, you don't look for pucks. You take sticks and put people on their rearends. Neither happened there. Nothing Stolarz could do
• Goal 2: That was a beautiful play by Van Riemsdyk. He sold pass all the way down and tucked it in just under the bar. Perhaps if the leafs made plays like that instead of shooting it into Talbot's bread basket all day, we'd have a different outcome
• Goal 3: Stolarz was playing the original shot. The shot hit matthews and went right to the Wings player. It was a bang bang play. What should the goalie do there?

Disagree on Stolarz, especially on the 3rd goal. Original shot was taken from the blueline next to the Leafs bench. Where was he going to be so out of position for the second shot? There was no need for him to even move on the original shot.
The JVR goal....nice move by JVR but he went down too early which allowed JVR to change the angle of the shot.
First goal, he was too far back in his net. Needed to be out further and make himself taller. Not blaming him for it but it's something he could have done differently.

 

[Zee]

It was a fun 10 years. Some of the best players the Leafs have ever had.

It was a memorable decade, defined by the presence of some of the most gifted players the Maple Leafs franchise has ever rostered. We were treated to years of thrilling regular season dominance and witnessed Auston Matthews' inevitable ascent to becoming arguably the greatest Leaf of all time. However, the ultimate legacy of this era remains permanently tainted. The bitter taste of playoff futility is unavoidable, there is simply no sugarcoating the fact that a team this immensely talented should have accomplished far more over the last nine or ten years.

 

[cw]

Also, anyone ripping Stolarz really doesn't know what they watched. Not a single goal last night was on Stolarz. Yes the shot totals were low but almost every shot on Stolarz last night was a dangerous scoring chance.

• Goal 1: Roy poked the puck out of the scrum directly into the slot. In a net front scramble, you don't look for pucks. You take sticks and put people on their rearends. Neither happened there. Nothing Stolarz could do
• Goal 2: That was a beautiful play by Van Riemsdyk. He sold pass all the way down and tucked it in just under the bar. Perhaps if the leafs made plays like that instead of shooting it into Talbot's bread basket all day, we'd have a different outcome
• Goal 3: Stolarz was playing the original shot. The shot hit matthews and went right to the Wings player. It was a bang bang play. What should the goalie do there?

I found little fault with Stolarz as well on those goals. I think he's looked pretty darn good all three games. He is not the problem

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Disagree on Stolarz, especially on the 3rd goal. Original shot was taken from the blueline next to the Leafs bench. Where was he going to be so out of position for the second shot? There was no need for him to even move on the original shot.
The JVR goal....nice move by JVR but he went down too early which allowed JVR to change the angle of the shot.
First goal, he was too far back in his net. Needed to be out further and make himself taller. Not blaming him for it but it's something he could have done differently.

Yeah, I've been training goalies for 30 years now. Again, I see no issue with his play on any of those goals. Sure, he could have stopped them with really excellent saves, but those would not be throw away saves.

First goal, where should he go? Into the mass of legs and sticks?
Second Goal? His only fault was expecting the pass. JVR sold that very very well and then still managed to put the puck in the only place it had an opportunity to go in.
Third goal? Deflections happen all the time where goalies are going in the wrong direction and pucks end up in the back of the net. Why is this different?

 

[Bender]

I fear we're in the decline stage of the Leafs once again and they didn't win anything during Matthews prime. I'm finding it more difficult to care about this team

3 games into the season lol. Let's wait to see how the season shakes out.