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Round 1: Predators (C2) vs. Blackhawks (C3)

Patrick said:
Martin Erat!

Forsberg 73 points
Erat 85 points

That's Erat's point totals over the last 3 years (regular season + playoffs) and Forsberg's totals over the last two years.
 
Bender said:
Do we have an updated range as to where the pick should fall?

The range is still 21-25, no change from before the playoffs started. The easiest way to look at it would probably be to say that they're currently picking 25th. Every time one of STL, ANA, MTL, NYR, or TB get eliminated in the 1st two rounds their draft positions improves a spot.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Bender said:
Do we have an updated range as to where the pick should fall?

The range is still 21-25, no change from before the playoffs started. The easiest way to look at it would probably be to say that they're currently picking 25th. Every time one of STL, ANA, MTL, NYR, or TB get eliminated in the 1st two rounds their draft positions improves a spot.

Based on the current playoff outcomes and overall standings

Rank  Team  Owned By
30  New York (R)  Tampa Bay
29  Montreal  Montreal
28  Anaheim  Anaheim
27  St. Louis  Winnipeg
26  Tampa Bay  Philadelphia
25  Nashville  Toronto
24  Chicago  Phoenix
23  Vancouver  Vancouver
22  Washington  Washington
21  New York (I)  Buffalo
20  Minnesota  Minnesota
19  Detroit  Detroit
18  Ottawa  Ottawa
17  Winnipeg  Winnipeg
16  Pittsburgh  Edmonton
15  Calgary  Calgary

30 = Stanley Cup Winner
29 = Stanley Cup Loser
28 = Better regular season record of Conference Finals Loser
27 = Lesser regular season record of Conference Finals Loser
26 = Best remaining division winner/Best remaining record
25 = Next Best remaining division winner/Next best record
24 = Next Best remaining division winner/Next best record
23 = Next Best remaining division winner/Next best record
22-15 = Next best record

So far no division winners/teams that finished ahead of Nashville have been eliminated.  In the absolute best case scenario Calgary and Minnesota face off in the Western Conference Finals and Detroit and Washington/Islanders face off in the other matchup.

That would have the standings go:
30. Detroit
29. Calgary
28. Washington
27. Minnesota
26. New York Rangers
25. Anaheim
24. Montreal
23. St. Louis
22. Tampa Bay
21. Nashville

That's not overly likely but it's possible.
 
So let me get this straight...

Chicago beats Nashville, and as consolation, the Nashville pick can still end up in a worse draft pick position than Chicago if Chicago loses in the next round.

That makes sense to some people?
 
pmrules said:
So let me get this straight...

Chicago beats Nashville, and as consolation, the Nashville pick can still end up in a worse draft pick position than Chicago if Chicago loses in the next round.

That makes sense to some people?

Makes sense that draft position is more a reflection of the 82 game schedule than a playoff series to me.
 
Potvin29 said:
pmrules said:
So let me get this straight...

Chicago beats Nashville, and as consolation, the Nashville pick can still end up in a worse draft pick position than Chicago if Chicago loses in the next round.

That makes sense to some people?

Makes sense that draft position is more a reflection of the 82 game schedule than a playoff series to me.

Well if the playoffs are that meaningless to you, then the draft order should be all set then...shouldn't it?  Line'em up 1-30.
 
pmrules said:
Potvin29 said:
pmrules said:
So let me get this straight...

Chicago beats Nashville, and as consolation, the Nashville pick can still end up in a worse draft pick position than Chicago if Chicago loses in the next round.

That makes sense to some people?

Makes sense that draft position is more a reflection of the 82 game schedule than a playoff series to me.

Well if the playoffs are that meaningless to you, then the draft order should be all set then...shouldn't it?  Line'em up 1-30.

Where did I imply they were "that meaningless"?  I said it makes sense that draft order is more a reflection of the 82 game schedule - aka not 100% a reflection of it, but that 82 games is a better reflection of the quality of all of the respective teams.  The order takes into account playoff results to a degree as well, and I think in a pretty good way.  If you won your division, chances are you're a pretty good team and not as "in need" of a higher pick, same with winning the Cup or finishing runner-up.
 
Potvin29 said:
pmrules said:
Potvin29 said:
pmrules said:
So let me get this straight...

Chicago beats Nashville, and as consolation, the Nashville pick can still end up in a worse draft pick position than Chicago if Chicago loses in the next round.

That makes sense to some people?

Makes sense that draft position is more a reflection of the 82 game schedule than a playoff series to me.

Well if the playoffs are that meaningless to you, then the draft order should be all set then...shouldn't it?  Line'em up 1-30.

Where did I imply they were "that meaningless"?  I said it makes sense that draft order is more a reflection of the 82 game schedule - aka not 100% a reflection of it, but that 82 games is a better reflection of the quality of all of the respective teams.  The order takes into account playoff results to a degree as well, and I think in a pretty good way.  If you won your division, chances are you're a pretty good team and not as "in need" of a higher pick, same with winning the Cup or finishing runner-up.

My hyperbole aside, to your point, Nashville is more "in need" of a higher pick than Chicago is, as a result of the playoff results.
 

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