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So, about Phil Kessel...

bustaheims said:
Mostar said:
Not so sure. I don't think the Leafs were a goalie away from being an upper tier team. I remember other issues with the team at that time...although I do remember there was a large focus on goaltending.

I do agree that goaltending was a problem though.

Personally I was extremely disappointed the Leafs didn't start a full rebuild at that time, WAY more so than a goalie change. They had some assets that were rated pretty highly at that time and the prospect cupboard was pretty bare.
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Who said anything about being an upper tier team? All I said that Rask would have been enough of an upgrade in net to keep them out of the basement. They still wouldn't have been a good team. They still would have had other issues. They just wouldn't have been the 2nd worst team in the league.
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Yes, you did not say they would have been an upper tier team otherwise. My apologies. However, the amount of focus (around here anyway) on that particular issue was not justifiable IMO considering the big picture of the organization of the time.

Some good people here argued (for 60 pages) how much better the team would be without him and how he was holding them back. While I agree to a certain extent, I felt (strongly, I'm emotional about the Leafs) there were some assets that could have been moved for picks. A few years of pain, with or without Raycroft - doesn't matter - and the Leafs are a much different club today.

PQ took an admirable shot, he iced a great looking lineup for a playoff run (pre-Raycroft), it didn't pan out, and they have just disintegrated ever since. Raycroft was just a bit player in the overall downward spiral of the club.

I fully agree with Bender. Not recognizing the need for a rebuild at the time was a massive mistake.

 
There was no managment structure that recognized the need for a rebuild or the realization that the auld days were over in our cap structured world.  Thank god we have some great hockey minds finally guiding this team.
 
I'm hearing that the Leafs might get Steve Stamkos as a free agent.  That would go against the tank.  It seems like a strange year for them to go all in.  That being said, if you have the chance to obtain a player like Stamkos I say do it.
 
sickbeast said:
I'm hearing that the Leafs might get Steve Stamkos as a free agent.  That would go against the tank.  It seems like a strange year for them to go all in.  That being said, if you have the chance to obtain a player like Stamkos I say do it.
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Stamkos isn't a UFA until the summer of 2016, so, any speculation about that now is extremely premature, and the odds that he even hits the market are exceptionally slim. What you're hearing is people that don't really know what they're talking about.
 
bustaheims said:
sickbeast said:
I'm hearing that the Leafs might get Steve Stamkos as a free agent.  That would go against the tank.  It seems like a strange year for them to go all in.  That being said, if you have the chance to obtain a player like Stamkos I say do it.
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Stamkos isn't a UFA until the summer of 2016, so, any speculation about that now is extremely premature, and the odds that he even hits the market are exceptionally slim. What you're hearing is people that don't really know what they're talking about.
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Hush. You are talking about my father.
 
bustaheims said:
sickbeast said:
I'm hearing that the Leafs might get Steve Stamkos as a free agent.  That would go against the tank.  It seems like a strange year for them to go all in.  That being said, if you have the chance to obtain a player like Stamkos I say do it.
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Stamkos isn't a UFA until the summer of 2016, so, any speculation about that now is extremely premature, and the odds that he even hits the market are exceptionally slim. What you're hearing is people that don't really know what they're talking about.
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In fairness, "might" really doesn't imply any specific percentage or likelihood. So saying the Leafs "might" get Stamkos is indisputably true.

How do you like it, huh?
 
Nik the Trik said:
In fairness, "might" really doesn't imply any specific percentage or likelihood. So saying the Leafs "might" get Stamkos is indisputably true.

How do you like it, huh?
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He does specify the Leafs might get him as a free agent - something, as of right now, he's not going to be this summer. Can't get someone as a free agent when they're not a free agent.

And, I like it just fine, thank you.
 
bustaheims said:
sickbeast said:
I'm hearing that the Leafs might get Steve Stamkos as a free agent.  That would go against the tank.  It seems like a strange year for them to go all in.  That being said, if you have the chance to obtain a player like Stamkos I say do it.
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Stamkos isn't a UFA until the summer of 2016, so, any speculation about that now is extremely premature, and the odds that he even hits the market are exceptionally slim. What you're hearing is people that don't really know what they're talking about.
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Well, then, sign Tyler Johnson instead.
 
bustaheims said:
He does specify the Leafs might get him as a free agent - something, as of right now, he's not going to be this summer. Can't get someone as a free agent when they're not a free agent.
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Sure, but not when they'll get him as a free agent. "Might" doesn't imply a specific time frame.
 
bustaheims said:
sickbeast said:
Hush. You are talking about my father.
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I'm sure your father is a wonderful man. He's still wrong.
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He may have been partially incorrect, but there have indeed been Stamkos rumours:

http://editorinleaf.com/2015/05/24/toronto-maple-leafs-trade-rumors-kesselstamkos/
 
Bullfrog said:
That's not a rumour. That's a blogger presenting an idea based on a comment in an article.
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Hush.  My father had to have heard this somewhere, he would never make something like that up.  Whether it's rumours or speculation, I'm just sharing with you guys that it's out there.  Take it with a grain of salt if you want.  In fact, I already told you guys to do that seeing as it came from my father...
 
sickbeast said:
Hush.  My father had to have heard this somewhere, he would never make something like that up. 
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I used to feel that way. Then I found out about the whole Santa Claus fiasco.

And I'm Jewish so that lie didn't even make sense.
 
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